Welcome to Two Much.
Tonight's guests have danced, fought, and charmed their way
through every genre imaginable.
Basically, two men who've covered more categories than Amazon.
One is a superstar.
On this show, he would be known as my husband.
-Okay. -Trust me. Getting him to come here
was more difficult than convincing him to jump off helicopters.
And the other one, a Nawab who doesn't jump off helicopters.
But can still drop one-liners sharp enough to cut you.
-Are these your children? -No…
Somebody is… One second, who's calling?
-I have no idea who's… -They are not your children?
Yes, tell me.
Are you looking for a cook?
-Yes-- -We want okra.
No, they are asking if we need a cook.
Oh, how much would she charge?
Please call me back. There seems to be a cross connection.
It's not a cross connection. We're two of us, we live together.
What's your name?
-Sushma. -Sushma. Okay.
So, Sushma, can you cook vegetarian and non-vegetarian?
-Can you cook aloo gobhi? -I can cook everything.
-Okay. -Where do you live?
-Sometimes Bandra, sometimes Juhu. -No, that house…
-We have many homes. -Madh Island.
Will you come to London? I travel, we travel.
-Hello? -Yes, hello.
Can you just tell her who you are and make her day?
-Okay, my name is Akshay Kumar-- -And my name is Saif Ali Khan.
-And we are… -Sushma, it was nice talking to you.
I do need a cook. I'll call you back.
I'm at a shoot. They are actually Akshay Kumar and Saif Ali Khan.
Please welcome…
And you figure out which is which.
-The Khiladi. -And the Anari.
Akshay Kumar and Saif Ali Khan!
They just introduced me as the Anari.
Why have they come with a bodyguard?
-Hello. -Hello!
-Why have you got a bodyguard? -He'll always be there.
-Why? -But why the security person?
-I have to. -Hi!
Why? You have your wife here. Why do you need a security person?
-From her only. -I think that's why.
Will I be okay?
-Shri, you can go. Thank you. -Thank you, Shri.
-You need protection from me?
I thought I was the one who needed to use.
-You've got Saif with you… -To protect him.
-Yeah, absolutely. -You just introduced me as the Anari.
-Both of you, thanks a lot. -No, absolutely not.
We told them to decide who is the Anari and who is the Khiladi.
-Between us two? -Yeah.
-Oh, then there's no-- -But didn't you just say
that for so many years, you've played his…
I can't say the word. Well, I can. His bitch.
So now, you are the Khiladi, he's the Anari on our show.
I'm saying, finally, I'm doing a movie where I've got a great role…
-with him. -Yeah, but let me tell you…
-I've always had good roles with him. -Show them.
How were you going to show your acting to Priyan sir?
Like that.
Okay, can you do your visually impaired person properly?
Well, he gave me the best piece of direction I've had in a very long time.
He saw something I did in the first take, and he said--
-But I-- -Stop. Then he said…
"Hey, Saif, I have an idea. Open your eyes
and pretend you can't see."
So, I said…
-That was perfect. -That was good.
-That was it. -Yeah.
-Amazing. -That's the limit of my prep.
-It's very hard. -But you did a good job.
-Thank you very much. -Let me tell you,
he did a very good job with the film.
-I've been watching him. -And you as well.
We've finished about 60 percent of the film.
No, no, we don't want to hear all this. Just sit.
Why are you pushing me?
Finally!
But you should put some warning there, you know.
You don't even know when you're going to fall.
-Nobody has tripped. -Nobody has fallen so far, besides you.
And we're wearing heels and stuff.
Then sure, our eyesight is going.
-Okay. Thank you for being here. -Just before we begin,
I just want to say I'm going to talk in Hindi.
-Okay. Why? -You decide who you want to…
I don't know what's about to happen, but I'll talk in Hindi.
-Well done. I was wondering-- -According to me, this show
shouldn't be called Two Much. I've watched some clips.
Because of you two, this show should have been called Two Cheetahs.
-Two Cheetahs. -Because anybody who
-Two Cheetahs. -sits here, you tear them apart.
We don't do anything. We're very innocent.
Let's have some voting there.
Who thinks it should be called Two Cheetahs?
-Two Cheetahs. Look. -No one has raised their hands.
-What's that? -Nobody.
-That's your personal photographer. -Yeah.
-It is. Yeah. -I know that.
So, coming back to this sofa now… Twinkle, how do you feel,
you know, interviewing your husband probably for the first time?
-I'm not really that-- -She probably interviewed him
-before she married him. -I interrogate him all the time.
Yeah, she interrogates him. I don't think she has interviewed him.
-I'm telling you, Kajol-- -But I want to tell you one thing.
She's more nervous than I am, because at one point,
both of you were her favorites…
-And today… -We're still her favorite.
-One second. And today we've-- -Absolutely.
She doesn't want me to say this, but today we finally have
that guest on our couch who has had a bath in her bathroom.
-Oh, God! -Yes.
Saif, please, I beg you.
-Saif! -Me?
I beg you. So, just to clarify this.
-Saif had come where… -To have a bath.
-First, when he came to Mumbai-- -Just to clarify, you weren't there.
He lived three buildings away from me.
And it also happens in Malabar Hill,
where your water supply is shut off.
So, he has come over and he has had a bath at my place.
-When you were living at Usha Kiran-- -You don't remember?
I don't remember having a…
You know, she had a little camera there.
So, we have some images which, you know, she's shared with me…
-Shut up! -very kindly.
-I seriously doubt it. -A little camera
to capture little things.
-Good one. -I think what you meant was big things.
You were the first person I met in terms of movies.
-Yes. -When I came to Mumbai.
-Absolutely. -And we were living next to each other.
-Yes. -I remember that. I remember your house.
And your flat. But I don't remember your bathroom.
And you remember my mom telling you, "Listen, if you want to have a bath here,
-go and have a bath right now." -Of course.
-Yeah. -But didn't you find Saeed Jaffrey
in your tub also? You have lots of bathroom stories.
We shot, we did Yeh Dillagi in Shimla together.
-Yeah. -I don't know if you remember that.
-I do. -Mr. Jaffrey was amazing.
He was… Rest in peace. Sometimes he used to have a few drinks
and fall asleep on my shoulder at a public function,
and then wake up and say, "He's still talking.
Who's this man?" I mean, he was really good fun.
He was fab.
So how did I end up in… Did I use his bathroom?
No, you were in your bathroom.
-But your door was open. -I was having a tub bath.
-Yeah, so his door was open. -With candles.
And then, he came.
His room was the one next to his.
So, he forgot it was his room. He entered his room.
-And then-- -And entered the tub?
He wanted to take a bath, so he took off his clothes.
All his clothes.
Then he removed the curtain in the bathroom
and saw him naked inside.
And he's wondering why Saif is in his bathroom.
-Hey! -And he said nothing.
Okay! And he has entered too. They were both inside the tub.
No. What! Now this story has become Housefull 4.
Saif!
It's become Housefull.
I think you have to stop going into people's bathrooms
or letting them into yours.
Now we have too many images of you naked in the bathroom.
But these things can happen to anyone.
-Yeah, really? -No, it's never happened to any of us.
Okay, guys, later. Later.
So, I believe that
some astrologer predicted that you would get married to Twinkle?
-Is that true? -Yeah.
-What's the story behind it? -Why don't you go ahead and say it?
-You say. -It's your interview.
-It's not mine, it's yours. -But it's your astrologer.
Yeah, so my father had an astrologer who once said
that I would marry Akshay Kumar.
And I didn't know him, and then I married him.
-Really? -Yeah.
-That was true. -Wow.
He was a very good astrologer. I mean, 18 years ago,
he said I'd become a well-known writer, I hadn't written a thing.
So, yeah. You want his number, I can give it to you.
-I don't think I want to-- -He stays in Delhi.
I don't want to know the future.
I like the uncertainty.
-Absolutely. We were also not sure-- -Deep.
Very deep. I must say, very deep.
I mean, a lot of uncertainty. We didn't know this was going to be…
But wait, what happened?
-He predicted the marriage? -He predicted that,
-but we didn't really believe him. -He told your dad about it.
He told my dad.
We actually met because of my dad.
My dad had an old producer friend.
And you know, like how some emperor says,
"I have commanded that this happens!"
My father said, you have to work in this movie because I have given my word.
-And she didn't want to work with me. -And I didn't want to work
with him at that point, but I did.
She was literally pushed in that film. Just do this film!
-It was not because of you. She just-- -It was because of me.
-Because of me. Ask her. -No!
-Ask her. -Because she was working with
amazing people like me.
-We didn't-- -So she said, not him.
Why didn't you want to work with him?
He was going through a bad phase. I was being snobby.
I had given a lot of flops, so she didn't want to work with me.
-You've always given some flops. -Many flops?
And then super hits. So, who cares?
-That's nice. -But that's why
she didn't want to work with me.
But I must tell you that once I got married to her…
Because we've done mind-blowing movies together.
-What? -I was saying, when I got married to her,
my luck changed after that.
-Your luck was good before also. -It was good before.
Okay, I shouldn't say that. Sorry, dumb of me.
-Of course. -No, it was my marriage and my this thing…
-It's my interview, it's my statement. -It's your story. Sorry.
It's your life and your peace of mind.
History is written by the people who write it.
You were asking if she is interviewing me for the first time.
But let me tell you a story about how we got married.
-Okay. -Straight away?
I mean, there's no foreplay, nothing. Straight away, how we got married.
Okay. Alright. Go on, say it.
When people get married, they match horoscopes.
She doesn't believe in that. You know what she did?
She inquired if my father had any kind of disease, or…
-Genetic background. -Genetic, DNA backgrounds she got.
Going back to my uncles and aunts.
-To see if there are any future problems. -Exactly.
Exactly, how the children are going to be.
And then, and only then, she decided that she could marry me.
What kind of genetics is a no-no?
I don't want to be mean and really say that,
but yeah, there were certain conditions
-that I would not agree on. -I know people who've said
-no to guys who wore glasses. -Yeah.
I have a friend who hid the fact that she wore glasses till she got engaged.
She got engaged to the wrong guy.
-You should take tips from her. -Very bad joke.
And there was another astrologer who predicted his marriage.
-To whom? -With Kareena.
-I was there. -He's had two marriages,
-Good question. -so we're not sure.
We were right there when all of this was happening.
-She was also there. -Yeah, and at that point,
you went and you tattooed her name on your arm.
-Yes. I… -That was a bit reckless, but now…
It wasn't, I was pretty sure that this was it, in that sense.
But I wanted a tattoo. So, I said, I'm going to get one on my shoulder.
And what should I get? And I was talking to her about it.
And before I knew it…
It was the full name on my arm.
And I wanted something more subtle on the shoulder.
Wasn't Akshay the first person who knew about you and Bebo?
Well, I'm not surprised if he did. I mean, I…
Because I used to get up early.
And I saw him going somewhere.
I said, "What the hell are you doing? Where are you going?"
You know, honestly, I had no… When I went to Ladakh,
I said, "Okay, I don't want relationships.
It's time to focus on work and be single."
And that worked out really well for you.
Yeah, it just shows, you know. And I remember…
But she was kind of… We used to go for these long walks,
and she'd ask me a lot of questions,
which was a kind of test meets interview.
"What is your view on love? What do you think about…"
All these things. So, we walked and walked
and came back to her room.
And I thought, maybe she'd ask me in for a further conversation.
And then her hairdresser, Hema ji, opened the door,
and she went and hid behind her and said, "Okay, bye.
I'll talk to you tomorrow."
So, this kind of went on for a while.
It's very old-fashioned.
So between the two husbands, one keeps it fairly private.
One makes his body into a billboard with tattoos.
-Yeah. -Why, even I have your name on my body.
No, he does. He also has a tattoo.
-Where? -Show your tattoo.
-I have seen it. -You've seen it many times.
-Yeah, I know. -Just show it now.
-I can't remove it. It's here. -I've seen it every time you take
your clothes off in front of me, which is very often.
I have Tina's name here, my daughter's name here,
-and my son's name here. -Yeah, it's branded for life.
Yeah. So Twinkle has not gotten a tattoo of you.
-Don't you think that's unfair? -No, I'm not…
-Absolutely not. -Why?
Never pressurize them.
-Never say anything. -Nothing is permanent in life, babe.
Tattoos are, marriages are not. I don't want any tattoos.
Later, I'll have to change it.
Both of you are very different.
You have very opposing viewpoints.
You know, I'm sure there are times when you just
seriously cannot agree on certain things.
What is the one thing that keeps you coming back?
She's fire, I'm water.
She says whatever she wants to, I just keep my calm.
Quiet. Just listen. Try to understand what she's trying to say.
-Do whatever you want, but listen. -Do whatev-- But listen!
-It's like, "Yes, I'm listening." -I think every husband
-should be a very good listener. -Or look like a good listener.
-Pretend. -That depends on your ability to act.
-And… -He's sounding like my father, you know.
That was his advice to me once. When I said, "Oh, I'm having this fight,"
he said… I was much younger. He said, "No, never fight."
So, I said, "What do you do?"
He said, "I just think about playing cricket or something
during the argument. I don't say anything."
-Listen. -What?
-If you just look like you're listening… -Yeah, look into their eyes,
-think of something else. -Oh, my gosh.
And in the end, say, "Okay, I understand."
-"I understand." He's a pro. -This is very good.
-There's so much to learn from you. -But I don't agree.
I think, actually, love has very little to do with marriage.
It's a good starting point.
But marriage is about being a team.
It's like you are Mahesh Bhupathi and Leander Paes.
You're whacking every ball that comes your way.
And also if Mahesh Bhupathi and Leander Paes
like to occasionally make out, preferably twice a week
-and when the kids are fast asleep. -Why didn't you choose mixed doubles?
Why didn't you choose mixed doubles as an example?
-Kumar and Khanna are very entertaining. -I didn't understand.
-I think that that's what it is. -It's not mixed doubles?
You could have done Sania Mirza and Mahesh Bhupathi.
Yeah.
I mean, why…
I got inspired after seeing your bromance.
See, I've always said that husbands should just stick to two lines…
-"You're right", and "I'm sorry". -Yeah.
-It works. -Saying anything else is futile.
-Because it's always wrong. -You get a t-shirt like that.
Just stop speaking and wear it.
This side is "you're right". Back is "I'm sorry".
-Hold a placard up. -I don't know.
-Are you still fighting with your wife? -No.
-Have you given up? -Given up.
-Long back? -Yeah, she's always right.
-So, there's no fight. -See?
Which is why we have a fun segment called "When Your Wife Says".
We'll throw you a classic wife-line, and let's see if you know what that means.
-Okay. -Okay, so the first one is…
"Do whatever you want."
It's like she has already told me what I have to do,
and then she'll say the statement, "Do whatever you want."
It means, "Do what I have told you to." So, that is how it goes.
-What about you? -I agree. Same.
What if she says, "Let's see," or "We'll see"?
That-- What I'm saying only, but we can pretend
we're going to discuss it again.
Like, even you have a say in the family.
Even you can talk about whatever you want.
But "We'll see" means, "What I have said will happen."
I agree.
What about "We need to talk"?
It's usually a bit of trouble or something.
Maybe you've done something, or you need to discuss something.
It means you have made a big mistake.
And now, what I'm going to tell you, you have to follow.
-Yeah. -It's like a big mistake…
-has been committed. -Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Oh, my gosh.
I never took it so seriously when I say, "We need to talk".
-I'm just like, "We need to talk." -That's what you think.
-Oops. -And at the back of your head,
you really have that thing… "I need to talk to you."
-Like this? -Yeah.
"We need to talk. Today, right now. Put everything aside."
That all depends… See, there are different ways of saying it.
"We need to talk" is a very casual way.
"We… need to talk."
-This delivery. -And then, there's another thing.
If she says it in front of people, it means that's very dangerous.
-"Listen, we need to talk. Okay?" -I don't say this.
I'm not the villain of some movie.
No, there are different ways of saying it.
Like, even while acting, we say a sentence in different ways.
-If we can, we try to. -We try to.
For me, there's only one way.
What if she says, "Do I look fat in this?"
-What do you say? -We're holding hands throughout the show.
Later. What? Sorry, Twinkle.
It's okay, you can finish all your footsie, cuddling, whatever you're doing.
-What was it? -What if she says,
-"Do I look fat in this?" -No!
-What is your response? -Obviously not. Never fat.
But you know what? I have a feeling you must have asked Bebo this…
-"Do I look fat in this?" -if you look fat in this.
I remember you once telling me, "Oh, thank God, I've loose motions
because I've lost a kilo and a half."
So, this is very likely your question, "Bebo, do I look fat in this?"
There is nothing like going to the loo, loose or not.
To lose weight.
I once thought I had lost two kilos.
-Anyway… -Okay, now to more serious things.
-Come on. Yeah. -Absolutely.
-So, you got married pretty young. -Yeah.
-At 21, actually. -Yes. So…
I mean, I have spoken about it a lot.
And obviously, 21 is young, and things change.
We know that things didn't work out.
But apart from having two wonderful children…
I don't think I've said before how important Amrita was in my life
to help me understand my way through the film industry
as well as understand quite a few things.
Her kind of contribution and help at that time
was something that's been quite invaluable also.
It's a pity things did not work out, but…
-But she brought you up well. -Yeah, kind of…
But there was a lot of…
There were some really… learning and important years.
And like I said, a wonderful mum.
But I'm really lucky, I think my ex-wife and I get along
well enough. We usually speak about important things.
Usually, when I'm in a hospital bed.
Very sweet.
But you end up in the hospital quite often.
Quite often, so it's a regular kind of contact.
-Do you have a bed there? -They've named a room after me, I think.
-Unsafe Saif. -Too many times
-accidents have happened, actually. -Yeah.
I think the nine-life cat… It's been seven.
But the last one was really traumatic.
-Yeah, it was. -I mean, we all heard about it.
-Absolutely, and we were all like-- -You know…
He told me the whole story, and he enacted the whole thing.
And it's actually quite dangerous, what happened with him.
Well, we had just gone to sleep, and Kareena had been out.
And I had finished watching a movie with the boys,
and they had gone to sleep and everything.
It was actually quite late.
It was late at two o'clock or something in the morning.
Kareena came back, we had a small chat, and then we went to sleep.
Then the maid came in and she said… "There's someone in Jeh's room.
He has a knife in his hand and says he wants money."
-Oh, my God. -So, I kind of just heard that
and rolled out of bed.
I barged into Jeh's room in the dark, and I saw this guy
standing over his bed with a knife.
-And then, I-- -But he was not pointing it at him?
No, but he had cut him later, because the nurse was trying to talk…
-Cut who? -Jeh.
-His son. -His arm had a little nick here.
The sister got a nick on her hand.
He was poking a knife at them.
And I kind of walked in, and I saw this guy.
And I thought he's smaller than me, which means he's not very large.
And I jumped on him, and of course, Jeh later told me
it was a big mistake. You should have punched him or kicked him or something.
But I jumped and we started this fight.
And then, he went mad. He had these two knives.
-He just started slashing all over me. -Oh, my gosh.
And I tried to remember my training and blocked a couple here and there…
But then I felt this thump in my back that was really hard.
And then we started fighting and rolling. The kids were out.
Everyone was out of the room, and Gita, our help,
helped me in this struggle and pushed this guy off me.
-Oh, well done. -And pretty much saved,
I think my life at that point, because he had cut me everywhere,
my neck and back… There was blood everywhere.
And then we locked him in the room.
And I remembered that I needed a weapon of some sort.
Because… And there are two swords that we have hanging
on the wall upstairs, outside the dining room.
So, me and Hari, another help,
went and grabbed them.
But I couldn't walk properly.
I was feeling… I had been stabbed in the leg.
But actually, I had been nicked in the spine.
And Kareena said, "I think we should go to the hospital.
I'm going to take Jeh to my sister's, and…"
-And he was locked in the room? -He had escaped the way he came.
-Because he came through a drain pipe-- -But according to you, you had locked him.
Yeah, we thought we had locked him in the room.
And I kind of looked at Taimur. Taimur looked at me upstairs,
and he said, "Oh, my God! Are you going to die?"
And I said, "No, I don't think so. But I've got a pain in the back.
I'm not going to die. I'm fine." So I said, "I'm fine.
It's just a cut in my back, so I'll go to the hospital,
and you take the kids and go to Lolo's."
And that was the idea. So, we stopped a rickshaw.
And at the last minute, Tim said he wanted to come with me.
And I was getting a lot of peace, looking at him.
It was weird. There was a lot of adrenaline.
There was a lot of calm.
So, all decisions were taken, but… It was…
And then we walked into the hospital,
and they were sleepy in the emergency area.
I told a guy, "Can you get a stretcher?"
And he said, "Wheelchair?" I said, "No, I think I need a stretcher."
He said no, and then, finally, I said, "Hey!" Because he wasn't waking up…
I said, "I'm Saif Ali Khan. It's a medical emergency."
And he went… "Oh!"
Then, you know, all pandemonium broke loose.
-But everyone was there. -But--
Great doctors, and they all sorted it for me.
-Hats off to you for fighting. -Absolutely.
I think that was very brave of you.
-I'm glad you say that. Thank you. -No, that's very brave of you.
It doesn't happen… And let me tell you, you have been a real hero.
-Thank you. -At least for your son and family.
-You're a real hero. -You're kind because…
And Jeh thought… Oh, Kajol!
-Okay. -Alright. Okay.
-Why are you-- -I think…
Jehangir said, "Abba, you're my hero."
So, we saw a video of you after coming back from the hospital,
getting out of the car and walking.
-And I was amazed. -I mean, there were so many--
-How did you do that? -When it was finished,
there were some people from there…
A lot of advice on how to go… The media were curious.
And I kept… Nobody was listening to me.
Because I said, "Listen, if the media is curious, we should settle it
and let me just walk out of the hospital.
Because I can walk." It was very bad.
But it was okay. They stitched it up, and I was there for a week.
The back was okay, and it was painful to walk.
But I could walk. The wheelchair was not required.
Then somebody said, "You know, you should go in an ambulance."
Somebody said, "You should go in a wheelchair."
And my instinct was, why create any kind of panic or worry even with family,
fans, well-wishers, anyone?
And just walk out to send a picture message that you're okay, you know.
So, that was the idea, but then there was so much,
kind of, feedback on that that this is fake, and that's true,
but that's the kind of world we live in.
-But this is the reason I did it. -I spoke to your mom after that,
and she said, "I told him to go in a wheelchair.
Why doesn't he ever listen to me?"
-I didn't want to create worry. -"There would have been no controversy."
-I mean, he's a brave man. -Thank you.
I'm telling you.
I know him so well. We've done about six to seven films.
More than that, I presume.
And some of the stunts he couldn't do, but he would still try.
He would just do it. He would just jump.
In so many films, he's the hero, and because I'm with him,
-I had to do it. -Because he used to say
that if he's doing it, I'll do it too.
So all those years of practicing just jumping…
In Yeh Dillagi, I remember he had to do that helicopter thing.
-In Yeh Dillagi? Or was it in-- -In Yeh Dillagi, no.
Was it the introduction kind of helicopter thing?
-Yes, I remember. -I had to jump out of a helicopter?
-Yes, I remember it. -And what happened?
He didn't jump.
-He didn't jump. -The helicopter came and went.
-Tinu is shouting… -Jump!
-Saif, jump! -Is it?
-But he jumped at the right time. -He jumped at the right time.
-He's jumped at the right time. -Absolutely.
He's a real-life hero. You're a reel-life hero.
-Yeah. -But both of you
could not be more different.
I mean, if we had to just count on the differences,
we'd have to get another episode going.
No, but basically, you two are very different.
I mean, Akshay, when you were hustling for tips in Bangkok
and Saif, I believe that you were taking money out of your father's wallet
-at some point… -Yeah, because he wouldn't notice.
-My mother would notice. -Your mother would have counted.
Yeah, she always knew.
-Why did you need that? -I don't know.
-You don't remember? -It was for coffee, it was for food.
-I wasn't a very good boy, very naughty. -Yes, it was food.
-And you still are. -It was food.
-Because they weren't feeding me. -Shut up.
Oh, God! Please, you grew up in palaces.
And you came from a very humble background, AK.
They were unpainted palaces. It was a big struggle, okay?
-It was tough. There was like… -Again!
-Unpainted palaces. -It wasn't air-conditioned.
Okay, you were running around unpainted palaces,
but you came from a very humble background.
You took me to see your grandmother's house in Chandni Chowk.
It was a small room, ten feet by ten feet.
And she told me that 13 to 14 of you would stay there--
-Twenty-four. -In one room?
-In one room, including both of you. -Wow.
You couldn't have been more different, but you made your own way.
How did both of you get into the business, though?
-Both of us? -I know your story.
-Let's start with Saif. -I can tell you his story.
Okay, why don't you do that?
Why don't you tell us each other's stories?
Well, I don't know where he'll start,
but there was a time when he was a very good-looking martial arts teacher.
And then, someone said, "Why don't you do some modeling?"
And then, he went there and met a young model called Sonia,
-who he shot with. He said-- -Did I tell you this story?
And you said you looked left, you looked right.
That's how you do it. So of course, he did that.
And then, at one point, she sat on his lap.
-Oh, yeah, I told you this story… -She sat on his lap?
And he said, this is a good job!
"I'm getting paid ten times more than the martial arts stuff and
Sonia is sitting on my lap, so…"
And then he got offered a…
I wanted to know when he first…
Because I remember when we were working together,
somehow you were quieter and reserved and
action and… When did you suddenly realize that you're
the best comic actor in the country?
-All thanks to Priyadarshan. -Oh.
Rajkumar Santoshi, and a writer and director called Neeraj Vora.
-Yeah. -So, these are three people responsible…
You know, sometimes you meet people who just push you
and get you to a spot where you never thought you could reach.
-The level… -Wow.
So, these are the people, and I'm very thankful to them
for taking me there.
But Saif, in the beginning, when you entered this business,
-your Hindi was really obnoxious. -Yeah.
And you had a lot of trouble, especially when you were working with
you know, people like Sunil Dutt and Yash Chopra.
What happened during your first shoot? Please tell me.
Well, I don't know if I should say it in this studio.
Yash ji, rest in peace.
-I wasn't-- -We're in Yash Raj Studios also.
-Just remember that. -He's a great director.
But he had worked with very big stars who are very capable actors.
So, after a long time, he got a newcomer who had no idea.
So, he said to me, "This is your introduction scene.
Dear, I want you to come inside and be very loud and happy.
Your friends are sitting and having coffee in the shop.
And you come in. Your name is Pratap.
You come in and say…
P-P-Pratap has landed. That's what you're supposed to say."
I said, "Okay." Camera has started, and he said, "Action!"
So, I came to the market and said, "P-P-Pratap has landed."
So, he said, "Cut! Why are you stammering?"
So, I said, "Sir…"
It's just a joke.
-So, that was my first shot. -Oh, my God!
-Well… -How can you do that?
That's what he wanted me to do.
He said, "Just do what I'm doing. This is what you have to do."
-So, that was it. -And you still made it all the way.
Congratulations.
Oh, God!
But you've both had your share of successes, failures…
I mean, dealing with a box office is like flying a kite.
Sometimes it soars effortlessly, sometimes it just crashes down.
How do both of you cope with the success and the failure?
I think you stay balanced during both times.
Just enjoy the work.
At least speaking for myself. There comes a time when you realize
that this kind of thing is not working anymore.
At least for me. So, let me try to change a little track
or find a different… So, you just choose a different…
Please, I think you should speak. Go on, you say.
One thing is for sure.
You don't know anything else besides acting
and being in the industry. So, what should we do?
We should just keep working.
It affects me on till Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Monday, I'm shooting again.
I always say this to everyone, I even tell newcomers
that you should just keep working.
Sometimes people say that they don't find good roles.
That they find small roles, but I'd like to say to them
that no matter what kind of roles you have, just take them.
-Do it. -Like, there's a saying…
"Money attracts money."
In the same way, work attracts work.
That work will attract bigger work.
If you do this, you won't even realize
that you started with two scenes, now you have 20 scenes,
and then you'll have 200 scenes. You can attract it all.
-Well done. -I've seen it.
I've seen this happening myself. And that's what happens.
Akshay, you deliver multiple movies a year.
And Saif, you space them out.
Is that intentional?
Saif doesn't want to work so much.
But I would like to tell you that we miss you,
-and you should keep… -Absolutely.
-coming on the screen. -You should do more work.
-Do about three films a year. -I'd love that.
-And keep working. -I try and do two.
-The only thing is… -No, but you have to do…
I have small kids and stuff. It's so heartbreaking.
They start weeping when I go outdoors for a week.
It's lucky in a sense when you have grown-up kids.
-Yeah. -Because then you can…
But they were also small. I didn't produce grown-ups straight away.
So, along with children, Akshay, you've produced
some very interesting films as well.
Like, Oh My God! Toilet: Ek Prem Katha…
I mean, a lot to do with social commentary.
So, where did that aspect of it come into, you know,
all the rest of your action genre, suddenly?
All this started when I started producing with my own company.
Like I would like to do if… Pad Man,
or Toilet: Ek Prem Katha, Airlift…
So these are all the films
-which I have produced myself. -Absolutely.
So I always wanted to do these kind of films,
which has some message to give. Like, Oh My God!
-Yes, absolutely. Loved the film. -It was about sex education
and things like that. So this is… I always wanted to.
So when I had a good amount of money, where I could produce it myself,
that is how I started changing my direction.
He takes a lot of risks. I mean, I remember
when we did Pad Man together, he wasn't meant to do it.
It was just a story I was writing.
-Yes. She wanted to take someone else. -I wanted
-to take someone else and… -I convinced them.
See. I told Balki also
to take me, I'll be the right person.
-And the way he convinced us… -Did you audition for it?
No, he didn't.
-Not auditioned but convinced. -But he said a very important thing.
He said if someone like me, a big movie star, stands up there and holds
a sanitary pad in my hand, it will change the narrative for everybody.
Not in these exact words
-but this is what he said. -He is right.
-Yeah. -He is absolutely.
Okay, guys, I think we've spoken enough.
It's time to move on to our next segment, called
Oppo presents "This side That side."
-Absolutely. -Yay! Games!
So it's simple. We read out a prompt, and if you agree with it, you get
into the green square, and if you don't, it's the red square. Let's go.
Saif and I are alike. If Saif alone plays, it's the same thing.
So you are planning to sit there and say, "You do it."
Oh, my God!
"Husbands are more high-maintenance than wives."
-Yes. -Husbands are more high-maintenance…
-Saif, you come back here. -I'm coming.
You come here. On this side, please. Thank you very much.
-I have to think. -No. You are.
Secretly, you are.
-I need a lot of… -Yes!
-Say it! -Finally! Something we agree on.
-You can keep one foot also. -Something we agree on, finally!
Listen. You have to say now.
-Husbands are high-maintenance, defend it. -Yes, in what way?
Wait, let me come out here. Say!
Okay, I'll go there.
-No! Come back. -No, I'll go here.
Saif, I'm telling you, come here.
-You'll be safe. -Yes.
-You'll be safe here. -What?
-There is nothing to say. -You have changed?
-What do you mean? -I think husbands are more
high-maintenance than wives.
-No. Wives are more high maintenance… -Wives are more high maintenance…
-How? We are not high maintenance. -You guys are the flippers here.
-You've happily changed your stance. -No. I'm not here…
-You are nowhere. -Sorry. I can't. Listen.
I love you, but I don't live with you.
-And coming to the next prompt. Come. -Okay.
You have 40 days of shoot with me.
-Oh, shit! I'm stuck in a hard place now. -Oh, my God!
-And you have action with me. -Oh, no!
Did you just say that you are stuck in a hard place?
Oh, my God! Okay.
Okay. "Morning people are more productive than night people."
-It's morning, people. -I agree.
-Heartily disagree. -I'm not sure if…
-Shah Rukh Khan would agree with that. -Yes.
I absolutely agree. Right?
-I'm not sure the rest of the world… -I completely agree.
Besides this very small section of the morning people,
the rest of the people are all night people.
-He is not even a morning person. -Let me tell you,
-this show has begun… Saif. -He is dawn to morning, done my morning.
This show has begun at 10:30 in the morning, we'll be free by…
No. But one second. What does morning mean?
Because he wanted to start at 10:30, he came here at 10. I had to come here at 7.
-Facts, babe! -Correct. I'd like to say something.
I would much rather produce in the morning.
Reproduce or produce?
I would much rather produce in the morning and get the work done, right?
But I don't know
-if night people are less productive. -Oh, God!
-I don't want to work at night. -I know that the
production happens at night, but…
-But this-- -Production happens at night?
-Forget it. -The reproduction…
-Next. -happens at night.
-Next… -Or in the morning.
Hey! Anytime!
Okay, next one.
"Live-in relationships are more reliable than marriages."
They may be more reliable.
-Absolutely, not. -No. We are all against it.
-No. We all agree to it. -Salaam Namaste.
-No. Marriage is like… -Okay. It's over. Next?
Marriage is like having a device. Okay?
It's like the warranty is over. You can't return it.
In a live-in relationship, you can still do exchanges.
I don't know how he
-is doing it with his wife, this show. -Seriously.
Great. You're the ultimate player.
Listen, it's been 25 years. So you can't say anything.
-Twenty-five years! -Let's all give him a round of applause.
-Next year is 25. -God bless. Don't jinx it.
I'm saying I don't know how you are doing this show.
Let me hide somewhere.
-Okay. -No, right? Remixes don't work better.
"Remixes work better,
-than original Bollywood songs." -Doesn't matter.
I don't have to do anything here.
-"Remixes work better than the original…" -Work better… No…
-No. I don't think so. -Absolutely not. Again.
-I don't love remixes. -I disagree with this right now.
Because I feel that in today's day and time, if we're speaking
of remixes, most of the old songs have all been remixed,
and they're becoming hits because of the fact that they are old, familiar,
-like your husband. -They are good songs.
You've nearly thrown him out of the glass-- out of the…
-square for that. -We can do a remix
-of Main Khiladi Tu Anari. -Do you remember the step?
I think I kind of. I remember there was this and all… I don't know…
-Oh, my God! -What's that?
Something like that, right?
There was a really fast one. I don't think I can do it now.
Yes. It was that.
-One more… Something like this. -No!
Okay. Can you not break our square? Come here and then…
You should be happy, you'll find an oil mine under.
I knew we'd have this flashback to 1995.
Yes, 1995.
You remember, we had gone to a show.
-Oh! -That was called…
-I know this story. -You know what it was called?
-Awesome Foursome. -Awesome Foursome.
-I love it. -I don't know how this name came up.
But Awesome Foursome was the show.
And… Madonna came to watch our show.
-We were doing a world tour-- -And we were so excited.
I gave my best performance, whatever I could do.
Shah Rukh gave his best performance.
-Then… -I gave my best performance.
-She gave her ultra-best performance. -Hopefully.
Juhi did too. And then came this performer.
He wrote this song in the afternoon when he learned
that Madonna was coming. And he sang the song…
"This song is…" Looking at her, she's there.
"For you."
You look to me a virgin!
You have a virgin smile!
And she's sitting there with her kid and husband.
-But she was very nice, she waited. -Gracious.
-Till the song finished. -And then she got up and walked off.
She walked off in the middle of the show.
And I remember her, she was screaming…
"Why did you sing this song? Why?"
And her mother was also there. They were all in a line to shout at him.
He thought he did the best thing.
I don't know why he sang to her, "You look to me a virgin."
It was finished. That was the end of the show.
We didn't get any Hollywood stars coming to watch our show again.
Oh, it's great.
"Controversies don't end careers, they extend them."
Yes.
Depends.
-Okay. -It hasn't ended, at least.
-So far, we are all alive. -And happy.
-We have survived our controversies. -Yes.
-Absolutely. -So, yeah.
I don't know whether they extend them.
-No. They don't. -They don't extend them.
You just have to keep on working, that's it.
-Yes. We know. -Alright.
-Come out. -Everything will extend.
Akshay is the only hardworking person here, and we're all useless. Let's go.
I know you are working hard.
I know you guys are working very hard.
I mean, I see my wife getting up at 5:30 in the morning.
-Getting ready to come here. -She gets up every day at 5:30
regardless of whether she's working or not.
-No. I get up at six. -Oh, my God!
I'll tell you something.
I was so proud of her when she was doing her university
and I used to see my son, my daughter.
They were going to school in London,
and I was the only jobless one, just sitting there.
I used to take the car and drop… I was so happy at that time.
You know, Saif, it's amazing.
I'm dropping my daughter off first at school,
then my son off at his university, then her.
To another university.
And I used to come home and just sit.
After that, what would you do?
Work out, swim.
-Rock climbing. -Okay, very nice.
-Oh, nice! -Come back on the couch.
-Okay. -Come back!
-Okay, no more questions? -Let's go. No. Come on.
Peaceful.
Okay. Where were we?
Now we're coming to the topic of the day.
We've realized that aging has a distinct male and female perspective.
I mean, we were walking in this morning,
and she was kind of waddling, and I said, "What, are you pregnant?"
And she said, "No. I have PMS."
And I said, "Oh, gosh, it's much better than menopause."
And that menopause was a threat.
I mean, I was just telling you what's in store.
But do you guys talk about things like that?
-It's sounding like a threat these days. -Yes.
Like everything's going to change. I'm going into pre…Perimenopause.
Perimenopause, and then menopause.
Yeah. So it's very frightening for us too, isn't it?
Yes. Because I think men go through it.
And it's called Andropause, if I'm not mistaken.
No, if our wives go through it, is it frightening for us?
-It's very frightening. -Definitely, yeah.
-Really? -Yes.
But they say, men when they get older… Men age like fine wine.
Not all men. Some men age like…
-fine wine. And some? -Some age like an old chip.
But that's better than the way we age. Like curd.
Sour, acidic, and just lumpy.
Where do all these statements come from?
-I mean, you look at it out there… -This has come out of Twinkle's book.
-But… -No, it hasn't.
I don't know because I've not read it.
So you don't worry about aging, basically? Both of you.
-Aging is just like… -I do.
-If I speak for myself. -You should.
Of course, I worry.
I mean, I'm 55.
Because you think, "I have 20 more years…" But you'll never know.
I mean, anything can happen at this age, and also
things… what he'd be 70 soon.
Most of your young life is over.
So it's a little…
You know, you have these thoughts of…
Your mortality?
Yes. Mortality and how it's… But I think it's important to kind of
know how to do that nicely and easily.
-and not worry about it too much -I used to worry about it.
I agree with you.
Even I thought that aging was terrifying, and then I
realized that while aging is a mathematical problem,
it's not a sum of division. It's a sum of multiplication.
We're sitting here, but we've had a multitude of, you know, heartbreaks,
a multitude of love, a multitude of triumph.
So, I don't think just not having tight skin is a qualifier.
It doesn't diminish us. It enhances us.
We are 51, 52, but we've got these people inside us.
I still have a ten-year-old inside me who beat up all the boys.
-I've got the 30-year-old young mother. -You beat me up once.
I've got the 40-year-old ambitious woman.
-Yeah. -You beat him up?
I did beat him.
-I give up. -We were doing a scene together…
You know, when I talk to them, they keep breaking in.
She actually slapped me in a scene, and she said,
"I don't know how to fake slap, I'm just going to give you a tight slap."
That sounds like Twinkle.
-No! -So I said, "No. Please don't."
She's like, "I can't do better, you are going to get a slap."
So I said, "Please don't do it."
I don't think she did, but I was really scared.
And in the whole scene I was like this…
I once tried to kick him because I was really angry with him.
That's my favorite story. She said, "Now I have to fake kick you, but
I'm going to really kick you because I don't know how to fake kick."
Then she kicked me, and something happened to her foot.
-No. I missed and kicked the iron railing… -There was a big lump.
That was the weirdest swelling I've ever seen on anyone's foot.
-And he was laughing… all through. -Of course, I was laughing.
I was like, someone has protected me.
She had to almost go to the hospital.
Talking with you guys, like, there are so many things you're saying…
And it's so complicated.
I mean, like just now, Tina. I know she is my wife…
She is going to beat me up…
But all the multiplication and the subtraction.
-All those things… -You got confused.
-I got confused… -You couldn't get the math right.
I recently went to Scotland.
We were having our lunch.
The menu had something written on it.
A fancy name in French.
Something like a loaf from the Netherlands and blah-blah.
So, I said, "This must be something very good."
So, I asked, "Can I have one of these?"
And then…
Guess what it was. Bread and butter.
-I mean, I… -We have this argument all the time.
I think life should be very simple.
-This argument we both have together. -All the time.
And I think if anything has to be explained,
it should be explained in a very simple way.
It's not me, Socrates says, "An unexamined life
is not worth living, it's only living for cattle."
-I don't mind being cattle. -But he is trying to tell you
that Socrates may have said it in English.
Akshay is trying to tell you
-that put it into layman's terms. -He must have said it in Greek.
-And tell him exactly what it means. -They could've just written
bread and butter, that would have been--
You could just say please understand and ask the question properly.
But getting to the simple core of things is important. You are right.
I think simplicity
-is the golden word today. -Genius. Yeah, a hundred percent.
One second, what can be simpler than this one?
Once I wrote him a poem,
and the title was,
"Two peas in a pod died of inertia."
He looked at me and said, "You're such a bore."
-So… -But Twinkle, I must say. He is right.
You are the big bore, just cackling.
And you also say so many things that I don't understand.
-Do you understand? -See? You're also thrown under the bus.
You studied at Oxford, right? Do you understand?
I studied in the Oxford dictionary.
But I like it very simple, very clear.
-That's the way I am. -So, let's ask simply.
-Yes, ask simply. -Let's ask simply. Let's ask in Hindi.
No, not in Hindi, you can ask in English, but don't beat around the bush.
-No one would understand it. -Let's ask simply that…
Okay. Although you won't worry about aging, we worry
-about aging… -Absolutely.
Is it because we're living in a man's world where
your value doesn't lie in tight skin and upright breasts, and ours
supposedly does, according to society?
Are we living in a man's world?
Yes. We are living in a man's world, but I think it is time
that everything should change, and it is changing slowly.
And I'm very glad that it is changing.
So does masculinity today still mean
"I earn and I provide," or has that changed?
And the fact of the matter is that when you look at our society, at large,
a man who cannot provide is not considered a success in life.
And women earning more than them
-or even working, for that matter? -Can I say something?
Most of the women that I know and…
Let's leave it at that.
I think I would find it difficult to respect
a guy who is not doing anything or not contributing in some kind of way.
-In a financial way? -But…
Honestly, it kind of helps if you
are financially contributing. We do get a bit more…
-More for the man than the woman? -credibility.
-But I think it's important for both. -There is little more pressure
in my mind on the man having to do that at the moment.
And if a guy doesn't do that, whatever people say,
the women, I know,
-will not really respect that. -But I think even for women,
it may not be that you have to financially go out there and earn more,
but you definitely have to bring something to the table.
But you'll have to listen a lot if you don't.
But I don't understand…
There is no such thing as a free lunch
even if you're the one making it in the kitchen.
-So you have to bring something. -There is no such thing as a free lunch.
-Let Akshay talk. Please. -Yes.
I don't understand what it is.
If sometimes a woman is earning more, I'm okay with it.
-If Tina is earning more… -She is saying what if
the man doesn't earn at all.
-I'm saying… -If that poor chap can't find work,
what's he supposed to do?
What if he doesn't want to work?
Not wanting to work is wrong.
But if he can't find work, what can he do?
A man should not…
Or anybody… Should not think of what society thinks.
Just think what you think is right.
There is too much complication in what society will give you.
It's too many things.
Too much stress. Too much pressure.
"What will this person think? What will society think?
And what will people have to say?"
Even when we do interviews, we think of a lot of things like…
"If I say this, what will people think?"
Just say what comes to your heart.
Anyway, moving on…
Both of you worked in the '90s, with three shifts a day.
Directors were temperamental, throwing mics.
There was chaos everywhere.
Today it's more civilized.
Do you find it easier to work now or back in
the '90s when it was all the wild, wild west?
-Or the wild, wild east. -I used to enjoy the earlier one.
-Loved the '90s. -'90s were the best.
-Everything… -We didn't have social media at that time.
Forget about anything. We didn't have vanity vans.
-What's the difference? -We didn't have vanity vans.
I'll tell you one thing that's changed.
There was a lot of bad language on set in the '90s, which I kind of miss.
When people used to say silence, and they were like, "Shut up, you…!"
And then everyone would be quiet.
And today, when they say silence, nobody even cares.
Not even the director. The director also doesn't say it.
His assistant will say, but his assistant will
-tell another assistant, he will shout. -Yeah.
-There were no phones. -We didn't have to worry
about social media, Twitter, or putting anything up.
We were just coming, working.
There was no paparazzi, there was no media,
there was nothing happening. Everything was just
working out smoothly. First class.
Yes. Hard work was there.
That time when we used to do stunts, we didn't have padding or anything.
I remember when, for the first time, I brought a knee pad
and an elbow pad when a fight master saw me.
He had never seen such safety pads before.
He was like, "What's up, kid? Are you going to the moon?"
"Flying to the moon?"
"What are you wearing?"
He asked me if I was flying to the moon.
-"You have a stunt to do." -Astronaut!
I told him, "Master, I brought these from America."
"Are you out of your mind?"
Just jump as you are.
Forget the moon.
You all have troubled us so much that now you should go home.
Thank you for being here,
and it's time to commemorate this moment.
We have a parting ritual,
where everyone gives an expression that says
today was Too Much!
Today was Too Much!
-That's too late. -Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
-Let's do it again. -Special timing.
Too Much!
-What? -Too Much!
Thank you, guys, and now we're going to give the hamper
to the person who has hijacked our jobs as host, and that person is…
-Saif Ali Khan! -Yes!
Candere…
Oh, it's jewellery. Thank you so much.
-Yes, it's gold. -I accept this. I would like to thank
-my parents. -Just…
-Oh, my God! -Leave it!
Thank you for coming, and on that note, goodbye, go home.
Thank you.
Go home. Fast.
-Fast. -Go home.
-Bye. See you guys. -Bye.
-See you. Bye. -Come on, sir.
-Bye, Tina. I'm going to Delhi. -Bye!
Oh, my God!
-Don't remove your…There's a camera. Hi! -It was good. It was fun. Hello!
-We've finished. It's done. Let us go. -Which camera are we looking into?
-How will we go? -Why can't we go?
I have to warn you that interviewing your husband is very difficult.
Brace yourself for when it's your turn.
I can see it on your face, my fellow tired buddy.
Come on, we should capture this moment with a selfie.
-Come on, let's do it. -Yeah.
Smile!
My eyes are shut in this.
Chill. Now we can easily correct it with Oppo's AI Perfect Shot.
Look, your eyes are open.
Oh, wow!
I really did not know it was this simple.
Well, you're not known as Mrs. Funnybones for nothing.
-You are an icon. -You're an icon, I'm a con.
You're the first Bollywood hero who shot with Samantha Fox.
-With Samantha Fox! -Yeah.
Very hot.
When Govinda's film was released, I bought tickets at a higher price
and sold them at half the price.
-Marriage brings destruction. -Destruction for whom?
Are you asking me? truction. -Destruction for whom?