[pop music playing]
-[machine beeps] -[indistinct chattering]
-[Nick] Can you hear me? -[Vanessa] I got you.
-Is this how they hear each other? -What a trip.
If we went to a music festival, would I be able to carry you on my shoulder?
[laughing]
-No! Now you had me give you my laugh. -[Nick laughs]
[Vanessa] And if we were in a pod, you would have--
[laughing]
I mean, if all I heard was that voice, I would definitely wanna boink you.
[laughing]
-Oh, my gosh, just on my voice? -[laughs]
-Just on your voice. -Okay. See if I can change my voice.
-Hello. -It sounds like you're trying too hard.
-[Vanessa] Hey, babe. -Yeah, that's good.
-[laughs] -I'm definitely into it.
-I've got my reunion dress on. -The one with the sequins?
-[Vanessa] Yes, the one with the sequins. -[laughs]
-Should we tell them? -[Nick] Yeah.
-Let's tell them about the reunion. Ready? -Yes!
-I am. I'll see you out there. -[Nick] Do it!
This season for the first time ever, the Love Is Blind reunion
is coming at you from the actual stage of Love Is Blind.
That's right. We got more behind-the-scenes,
more guests and more surprises than ever before.
Hey, ladies, you almost ready?
-Vanessa! -We were born ready.
The better question is, are they ready?
-[Johnny] Who would have thought? -What's up, fellas? How's it feeling?
Go easy on us, Nick.
[laughing]
That's right. All of your favorites from the season six pods
will be returning today, but that's not all.
Oops! Sorry.
-We should put locks on these doors. -[Brennon] This is our pod!
For the first time ever,
we'll also be joined by several former Love Is Blind participants.
-Hey, Brett, Tiffany. -Hey, Nick. [chuckles]
Some things never change.
-Well, we're ready for you. -Okay.
Be there in a second.
Well, I know we've all got a lot of questions for everyone here.
So I say, let's go ahead and get to it.
I can't wait, but first, come on with me.
There's something I've always wanted to do.
Come on, guys, I gotta show you!
-Hey, there. -Hello.
[Nick exhales] I'm excited for this. This is gonna be good.
[Vanessa laughs] Whoo!
[exhales] So nervous.
It's exciting. Okay, I can't wait to get out there. Let's do this!
Let's go! Let's go!
[laughing]
-[cheering] -[Vanessa] Hi, everybody!
[pop music playing]
[Nick] What's up?
Hi!
Oh, my gosh!
[speaks indistinctly]
-[laughs] Hey! -Hi!
Hi.
-Hello! -[Nick] Welcome, guys!
Welcome, everyone, to the Love Is Blind reunion!
Wow!
What do you think? Should we bring our friends from season six out here?
-[cheering] -Yeah? You guys sure?
-Yes. -All right! Come on out, guys!
[woman] Oh! Oh!
[all cheering]
[pop music playing]
-[woman 2] Yeah! -[woman 3] Oh, my God!
[woman 4] Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Whoo!
[woman 5] Oh, my God!
[woman 6] Oh, my God!
-Whoo! -[woman 7] Whoo!
Whoo!
-[laughing] -[cheering]
Welcome, everyone.
Thank you so much for joining us here today.
We're so excited to have you guys and to see some familiar faces.
-[Nick] Yeah! -Yes. Hi, everyone.
Welcome, guys. Good to see everybody.
[Vanessa] We're gonna catch up with you in a bit,
because two of you have a very big announcement to share.
-Don't worry. We'll get to that later on. -[Nick] Oh, yes!
Everybody, get your EpiPens ready.
[laughing]
Get 'em ready. Thank you, Jessica, for that one. [Nick laughs]
You are gonna be in disbelief over what we have in store for you tonight.
And don't worry, we'll be addressing
every single scandal that has been gripping you over the past few weeks.
So what do you guys say we get this started? Are you ready?
[cheering]
[Nick] All right.
AD, help me out on this one.
-Pick a number between one and 15. -Four.
-Four? -[Vanessa] Four's already been asked.
-[Nick] No. -[Vanessa] We are teasing.
What color are your nails? Are you not painting them red anymore?
Listen, no red flags over here.
-[Nick] Okay. At least not tonight. -No red flags. Not right now.
[Nick] Well, we have lots of questions, of course, for AD to come,
including what happened with Clay after the altar,
and has she met up with Clark Kent? Oh!
[Vanessa] Also, I can't wait to see the receipts
of Matthew's dates with AD and Amber,
and did he really say the same thing to both of them?
[Nick laughs] But first, let's check in with our season six lovebirds,
Johnny and Amy.
-How are you guys? -[cheering]
[Johnny] We're good.
-[Vanessa] Doing good? -[Nick] Well, you look fantastic tonight.
-Look at her, she looks great! -[laughs]
-And he looks sexy. -[Vanessa] Both of you guys.
Your wedding was so touching.
It was a moment that Nick and I-- we were laying in bed watching it.
When you were standing there
before you walked down the aisle with your dad and your brother,
I was getting choked up, but I looked over and he…
Tears are coming down his face.
We love how important family is to you guys,
and we just wanna know, to this day, are your families still close?
Do you still do things together with each other's families?
Oh, yeah. Our families talk all the time.
I mean, my dad calls his dad all the time.
We've traveled together. We've gone to visit his family.
We went to France with my family together.
-Christmas, we spent that in Charlotte. -With my family.
We got some photos.
-[Amy laughs] -[Johnny] Yeah.
[Vanessa] Christmas in Charlotte.
Oh, my gosh!
-That's a real family photo! -[Nick] I like the pigtails, buddy.
The JCPenney photoshoot was probably one of the best things ever.
-It was iconic. -Um…
Definitely recommend everyone does that.
And try to get in the most awkward positions as possible.
[Amy] I know it looks like we worship our men.
-But in reality, they are worshiping us. -[laughing]
-[Amy] They worship the ground we walk on. -[Nick] Not your average family photos.
You know, guys, it's really what family's all about, right?
Family fun, those are the memories that you're gonna hang onto forever.
You guys continue to show why you are absolutely perfect for one another.
So congrats again on your marriage. Great to see you guys.
Thank you so much.
Stories like yours are the heart of this life-changing experience.
Now over the past six seasons,
we have had the unique pleasure of watching so many hopeful singles
meet their spouses from behind a wall.
[Nick] Eleven couples have ended the experiment by choosing to say "I do,"
and nine of those couples are still married to this very day.
Honestly, that's a pretty extraordinary number.
Really, really cool.
So tonight, we are thrilled to catch up
with some of the Love Is Blind family right here in person,
but first we wanna take a quick look back at their love journeys.
Aww!
[Nick] Welcome to Love Is Blind!
-[cheering] -[laughing]
-[woman 8] Hello. -Cameron.
-[woman 9] Can you see anything? -What are you looking at?
It looks like a scene from Frozen.
-My name is Micah. -Best voice I've heard so far!
[laughing]
[Chelsea 1] I love our beautiful slow rumble roll.
It has been one of the most beautiful things I've ever been a part of
and been witness to.
-You're cute. -[Chelsea 1] Beautiful.
[both laughing]
I wanted you to know, I'm completely in love with you.
[laughs]
Like, you're 100% my lobster. You're my person.
I love you too.
Never in a million years
did I think I was gonna find love out of this.
Will you marry me?
Oh, my God. Yes. I will be your wife.
[Zack] I believe there is nobody in this world who I'm meant to be with…
-[shouts] -[Zack] …more than you.
-Will you marry me? -Yeah.
♪ Me and you… ♪
[laughing]
♪ Me and you… ♪
Oh, my God!
-[Johnny] We were cute together. -[Amy] Yeah.
[laughing] You're so tall!
[singer vocalizing]
[woman 10] He is one of the best people I've met in my life.
-You're really lucky, Brett. -I love you.
-[woman 11] You're getting married! -[woman 12] They're so cute!
[women cheering]
[Chelsea 1 sniffles] I can just see myself walking down the aisle
to my husband in this dress.
-[Zack] I love you so much, Bliss. -[laughs]
I do.
I now pronounce you married!
-[laughing] -[crowd cheering]
[both] We are married!
[shouts]
Lick it off. [shouts]
-You're my husband. How does that feel? -Amazing.
I love you so much.
I love you so much too.
[laughs]
[cheering]
♪ Me and you ♪
[Nick] Yeah!
-Awesome. -Welcome, everyone. Kwame and Chelsea.
[all cheering]
[Vanessa] Tiffany and Brett.
Colleen and Matt.
Alexa and Brennon.
Plus Micah, Izzy and Gigi!
-[cheering] -[laughing]
-Yes, Gigi! -[Gigi] Yeah!
Great to see you. First off, congratulations.
-Oh, thank you, darling. -[Nick] Very much in order.
-I look different since you last saw me. -[Nick] You look beautiful.
Introduce us to your man here.
Yeah, so this is my partner and the father of my baby.
-[laughs] -Blake Horstmann.
-Say hi to Love Is Blind, Blake. -Hello, everyone.
-[Nick] What's up, Blake? -Good to be here. [laughs]
It's good to have you here.
So you guys are expecting a baby boy. Is that right?
A baby boy. I'm hoping it looks just like him.
[Chelsea 1] Aww!
I don't think you could go wrong.
Oh, thank you.
[Nick] Is there a name that you guys have picked out
that you feel comfortable sharing with us today?
So, we're waiting until he pops out.
And I don't know if he's gonna be
a little, like, fair skin and blue-eyed like him
or a little bit spicier like me.
So I just wanna see what he looks like.
I mean, a lot of things already have his name on it, like my bracelet.
-So I'm hoping that this is the one. -[laughs]
Is the bracelet with his name on it the spicy name or the Blake name?
-The Blake name. -[laughing]
We're so happy for your love and that you found your person.
I actually had Perfect Match lined up.
I was gonna hang out with you.
And I ended up just falling in love and not doing that.
So it's been a journey. It's been a different path.
But it all started here.
[Vanessa] Yeah!
Perfect Match's loss is certainly Blake's gain.
-Amen, amen, amen. -[Nick] You guys are a stunning couple.
-So congrats again. -Thank you, guys.
-Thank you for sharing. -Absolutely.
Wouldn't have happened without this mess.
-[Vanessa] Yeah. Well, let's get into it. -So let's get into it.
[Nick] Let's move on
to someone who had a little trouble deciding on their person.
Jeramey, aloha.
-How's it going? -[Nick] Digging the shirt.
-[Jeramey] Yeah. -[Nick] I live in Hawaii.
So I can say "aloha" and not feel bad about it.
I figured we'd go full send on this.
[Nick] It's been a year since you and Laura ended things.
So how is your love life today? Are you seeing anyone?
Uh, it's been going well, and yes, I am seeing someone.
Funny you should mention that. She actually is here today.
-Guys, should we bring her out? -[all] Yes.
The current flame in Jeramey's life? Let's bring her on out.
Oh, my God.
[Nick] Let's please welcome Sarah Ann to the show.
[pop music playing]
[woman 13] Oh, not the kiss.
-[Nick] Right. -[woman 14] Awkward!
[laughing]
-[Vanessa] Hi, Sarah Ann. -[Sarah Ann] Hello.
[chuckles]
Have you been together ever since you rode off into the sunset on jet skis?
We have, yeah.
We've been dating for
almost a year now.
-We live together. -[Vanessa] You live together.
[Nick] Okay.
[Vanessa] All right, well, we have lots of questions for you two, but first,
Laura has shared her location with us.
[laughing]
[Vanessa] She is in Barcelona, Spain, for work.
-But we actually have her on Zoom. -[all] Aww!
-So, please welcome Laura! -[all cheering]
-[Nick] Laura! -Do we clap?
-Hmm? -Do we clap? [chuckles]
No.
[Nick] How have you been? How are you? Everything good?
I'm good. Yeah, all good.
Wish so badly I could be there in person, but work always comes first.
So, Jeramey, we're sitting here with one woman you've been engaged to,
one woman you're currently living with, and sounds like have been for a while.
Yet, there's a third woman whose mother went on social media
and said that you two were actually engaged
while you were applying for this experiment.
So, what do you have to say about that claim?
Uh, yeah, I can actually address that one pretty directly.
It's not true.
So, what had happened is, yes, I was previously engaged.
Everybody I dated was well aware of that.
Um, I had mentioned, yes, sold my house.
And I did go ahead and apply after I was out on my own, doing my own thing.
Got approached to do it and decided to move forward at that point.
[Nick] Okay.
So, Laura, how does that sound to you?
Um, in the pods, he did mention that he had a fiancée before.
-[Vanessa] Did he mention one to you? -Yeah.
Well, there's another burning question directed to Jeramey that we wanna know.
Why did you lie about your location
after you shared it with Laura?
Like, did you not think that the little button would continue to move…
[laughing]
…and follow you?
Did you leave it in your car and you had an Apple Watch? Like, what is…
Okay. No, I can address that too.
I shared my location before I left the house.
Nothing inappropriate happened. We did hang back and continue to talk afterwards.
The only time I was ever at Sarah Ann's house is when I went to go drop her off.
[Vanessa] But the question was just,
"Why would you leave your location on and then lie about it?"
[laughing]
Uh, I don't… I… I didn't intentionally lie about that.
I did share my location.
-[Vanessa] Then forget? -[Jeramey] No.
Honestly, I'm convinced that had I not woken up,
he never would have admitted
talking to her or going to her house, in any way shape or form.
Sarah Ann was actually telling other people the exact same lie.
They corroborated together that they never left the parking lot.
So, to clarify, when I got back to the townhouse, Laura was asleep.
I stayed downstairs until I heard her getting up,
and then instantly went up the stairs
to tell her Sarah Ann and I had had a conversation. "Here's what happened."
That's not true.
Once I saw his car get on the highway,
I heard him come home and purposely stay in the living room.
Which let's just all call that for what it is.
Um, I then woke up at 9:30, ten o'clock.
He came in. He was kind of stumbling around his words.
So I was, like, "Where were you?" He wouldn't answer straight up.
And I just knew. I knew he had seen her.
And, I mean, I freaked out.
For him to go meet her behind my back, I just knew it was sketchy.
You were not waiting for me when I got home.
I came upstairs. I told you what happened.
-I'll admit my fault on the other part-- -[Laura] True.
I didn't say I was waiting up.
I should've been on the front porch waiting for your ass at 6:00 a.m.
-You said I was laying in my bed. -[cheering]
[Laura continues indistinctly]
[Jeramey] I'll take my lumps for what I actually did,
but I'm not gonna have it continue to be painted to be worse than that.
-I'm not gonna do that. I'll own that. -You've never taken accountability.
You've never taken accountability. You've never, like, flat-out apologized.
You're a clown.
-You're sitting there, lie after lie. -I never apologized?
You should relax, calling someone a clown
when you told him shit about me in the pods the entire time,
saying that I'm a pick-me girl?
You're the pick-me girl.
-You're the pick-me! -You're the pick-me! Don't start.
You saw me crying with my heart broken.
-[Jessica] I'll have my moment! -You saw me crying with my heart broken.
Are you happy with the way it turned out?
-Yes, I'm very happy. -Just like you said you would.
-Okay, let's let it go. -Like you said you would.
-[Laura] You are a pick-me girl. -[Nick] Okay!
-You're not a girl's girl ever. -Just let it go.
[Nick] Jeramey continues to maintain
that he was just talking with Sarah Ann until 5:00 in the morning.
I'm curious to hear what you all think. Are you buying that story?
-I got enough on my plate. -[laughing]
That's Jeramey.
-[Nick] Trying to stay out of the way? -I'mma just sit here.
I've never stayed up till 5:00 a.m. just chatting.
[Sarah Ann] You saw me staying out and getting walked out on by Matt.
Is it that shocking that I was talking till 5:00 in the morning?
Everybody knows I can talk.
It's not that shocking.
-He was never invited into my house. -[Vanessa] Sarah Ann. Sarah Ann.
Did y'all kiss?
No, absolutely not.
-No. -[Vanessa] Okay.
[Nick] So, Laura, what do you think hearing this?
They continue to maintain they just talked till 5:00 a.m.
-What are your thoughts? -I don't care what they did till 5:00 a.m.
-I think they're both disgusting. -[laughing]
-[Vanessa] She said they're what? -[Nick] Disgusting.
When do you think you started to question if Jeramey was really the one for you?
[Laura] I mean, sure, I started having my doubts.
You know, we started bumping heads a little,
but at no point was I thinking, "I'm not gonna get married."
Jeramey and I literally every day had a check-in with each other
on what our percentages are, whether we're 80%,
eight out of ten, 85% gonna get married.
And it never dropped below that.
So to go from spending all day with my family
and then to disrespecting me,
staying out with another woman till 6:00 a.m. the same night?
He had told her that night
when they stayed out together that he was gonna break up with me.
So he spent all day with my family, all day telling me how much he loved me,
kissed me goodbye as he went to the bar.
Went out that night, met up with Sarah Ann, talked to her.
The conversation was so good
that he decided he just had to end his relationship right then.
[Jeramey] I know what you're referring to.
-[Laura] That's what your girlfriend said. -Exactly.
[Nick] So, Sarah, DMing Jeremy coming out of the pods
was obviously somewhat of a controversial move this season.
We actually have some never-before-seen footage of you and Laura
speaking about it at the lake party. Let's take a look at that clip.
[Sarah Ann] I'm here
to take everything, and I want you to unload it on me and give me--
No, seriously, I really do, because I think you deserve that.
I do wanna talk to you about the message that I sent,
because I know that that came across so disrespectful to you.
And I am sorry if I hurt you in any way. I really am.
Because I don't want you to think that I came to ruin your relationship.
I was just very…
I didn't get off my chest what I needed to.
-Yeah. -He obviously was saying things to me.
"I've only told you this" and blasé blah and whatever.
Like, I needed closure, but I didn't know how to do that.
And then I thought, if they're not married just yet,
should I just send the message now?
I'm not gonna lie. I was in the real world while you guys were there,
and I was kind of heartbroken, and I was just, like,
"I'm gonna send it and get it off my chest and move on."
That's really what the intent was, and I hope you know that.
And the whole, like, "If anything changes let me know."
Like, I was, like, "You know, hey, if it does change,
I want you to know I would love the opportunity to get to know you."
-I know you read the message. -Yeah, yeah.
I didn't send the message going, "I hope she doesn't see this."
I sent it thinking, "That's his fiancée. They're probably both gonna react."
And I thought what I knew about you, 'cause I adore you.
I was thinking, "Laura is a grown, strong woman."
She's gonna be like,
"I'm in this situation, and that's valid for her, but I still have him."
I thought about it differently, and I shouldn't have.
And I assumed, and I'm sorry.
You're fine. No, I really, like, appreciate you even bringing it up.
Do I think the message was disrespectful?
I do. I did. I was like, as a woman-to-woman…
But I was like, at the end of the day, he made the commitment to me, not her.
He got down on one knee.
He said he chose me. He was gonna protect my heart forever.
Right.
And that was it.
And I remember asking him when he did. I was like,
"Is there a world where, like, I turned you down
or I went another road to where you proposed to Sarah Ann?"
And he said, "Absolutely not."
But, babe, the way that he's handled himself since then.
-I don't believe him. -Really?
I don't believe a single word he says.
I think he was a literal fucking clown robot in the pods.
And, like, who he said he was and how he handled the situation
and how he conducts himself as a man and a human being,
he hasn't shown me an ounce of that since we've been out of the pods.
-Really? You think he's an all-talk-- -100%.
Once you're in the situation…
There is a part of me, which I voiced to him.
There's a part of me that's like, "Are you… confused still?"
He's, like, "No, no, no." But I'm like, "Now I'm talking to you."
I'm, like, "Is he in all aspects?"
Just be careful, babe.
Like, the guy, as far as I'm concerned, is not who he said he was.
To say that, like, you love me as much as you do
and, like, I was it no matter what,
and to throw you fucking under the bus continuously, like, it's…
-Yeah. -The guy likes attention.
Since that night happened last Saturday,
all he's been fucking talking about is his image
and how he looks worse than Jimmy.
So I don't know why the fuck he came on this show,
but it sure as fuck wasn't for a marriage or for fucking love.
-'Cause he's not ready for that. -[Sarah Ann] Wow.
I am literally blindsided
at who this person said that he was.
-Yeah. -And, like, just watch yourself.
[laughing]
[laughs] I don't know what the Jimmy context was about.
-I appreciate the strays. -[Jeramey laughs] Sorry about that, Jimmy.
[Vanessa] So, you kind of got dragged into that conversation.
-[Jimmy] Yep. -I'm sure that was a surprise for you.
I'm dragged into every conversation, it feels like.
[Vanessa] What do you think Laura meant by saying Jeramey
was worried he'd look as bad as you?
I remember me having a really tough decision.
I'm sitting here in the pods. I'm like… for days, hours, it felt like.
I remember all the other guys, Ken, everybody else picked me up that day.
Jeramey said, "At least I can sleep knowing Jimmy's the villain."
When I had a decision to make and everybody else was picking me up,
that was the words you left me with.
-Okay. -[Nick] That's true?
I don't recall saying that, but if I did say that, I was--
[Jimmy] Was on your mind.
You're still talking about me in your relationships.
That's how you viewed me.
[Jeramey] I understand that, and if I did say that to you,
I'm sorry for saying that,
'cause it was not meant to be anything serious.
-That's fair. -Do you feel a little burned by that?
[Jimmy] It is what it is.
Jeramey is the least of my concerns right now. [laughs]
[laughing]
I am sorry for saying that.
-Well, AD, you had some choice words… -[AD] A few.
…for Sarah Ann at the lake party. We all had a chance to see that.
What did you think of Sarah Ann's apology to Laura just now?
I mean… [sighs]
I feel like it's null and void.
I don't think it matters.
You still pursued him. You still went after him.
So, sorry for what?
Mm-hmm.
[Vanessa] Sarah Ann, at that lake party that we keep referencing,
there was a bit of an icy reception
from the women in this group.
How does your relationship with them stand today?
I don't talk to any of the women.
That's because she liked to unfollow us
and still follow our fiancés at the lake day, which I thought strange.
-[audience] Oh! -[laughing]
This is, like, a lot. [laughs]
[Sarah Ann] You iced me out of a chat.
[Chelsea 2] Nobody was mean to you.
[Sarah Ann] You guys iced me out of a group chat.
-I removed you from the group chat. -And you know what, Jess?
You saw me crying after he broke up with me. I said, "I feel gaslighted."
And I was heartbroken.
And you watched me bawl my eyes out, and you defended him.
Not me. You were never a girl's girl ever, honey.
And you sat there and told me that I'm not a girl's girl? You're not!
-That's why you got removed. -You watched me bawl my eyes out.
Being the loudest in the room does not make you the most noticeable.
I'm not trying to be loud. It's not about that. I'm always loud.
[Jessica] So take your moment and then I'll speak.
[Nick exhales]
[Jessica] No one could empathize with your situation more than I could.
Honestly. Truly.
And I think we can all agree,
everyone's feelings are valid, and we're all entitled to having them.
We just, as a group,
we all thought both of you could have handled the situation more respectfully.
Absolutely.
Simply just show some consideration.
Just curious if any of you have seen Jeramey in the subsequent time.
[Vanessa, Nick] Since the show.
-Oh, yeah. [laughing] -[Vanessa] Okay.
-Every time I see him, they're broken up. -Yeah.
-[audience] Ooh! -[Nick] You said they're broken up?
[Chelsea 2] They're broken up every time I see 'em.
-[Vanessa] When have you see them? -[Jeramey] I've seen her one time.
-I've seen you one time since-- -I've seen you twice.
I asked if you were still with Sarah Ann, and you said no.
When-- okay.
We have gone through
real life relationship stuff since we have been together.
Have we had our ons and offs?
Yes, we've had our ons and offs. We've had our ups and downs.
We've had times where we've contemplated separating from each other.
We've had times we've had to make up in order to make that happen.
And at the end of it, we ended up moving in together.
October.
So there's some missing, like, story in that part of it.
Like, we've had our ups and downs, but we did realize
fighting through things continuously, that we do love each other.
We wanted to support each other through this whole process itself.
And since we've been there, I'm not gonna say everything's been perfect,
but we're still fighting for that every day.
Okay, well, Sarah Ann, I have to ask you about
something else that happened fairly recently.
You did a video, uh, that appears to show you living
in Jeramey's home.
Even if you did that inadvertently, people online
have said you spoiled the storyline for them. You gave away the ending,
because you showed that you were clearly with Jeramey in his home,
which they've seen previously in the season.
When I posted the video, I actually…
I guess to the magnitude of the internet,
I never really could understand
that people really do become the FBI and pause things.
-Oh, yeah. -That's where I reside.
Fans are sleuths. They're, like, "I know that painting."
When I posted, it wasn't to spoil anything.
That wasn't my intention at all.
[laughing] Well, while we're talking about things that have been put out online.
I have to ask you about something else.
You posted a video saying, and I quote, "This is reality television."
"It's meant to entertain you, and that's exactly what we're doing."
"We didn't miss with this one, baby," end quote.
-[laughing] -Let's look, so everyone has the context.
-Oh, God. -They're calling everybody out. I love it.
This is a reality television. It is meant to entertain you,
and I think that's exactly what we're doing.
We didn't miss with this one, baby. We didn't miss!
So, be very, very clear about this right now,
was this all just for entertainment?
I will say this, that I fell in love with who Jeramey is as a person.
We've had a strong connection
since the very beginning of this experiment, okay?
And I don't think for a second
that anything between us is fake.
To throw out there so casually, "This is entertainment. We didn't miss."
That's where the disconnect is happening.
The reason I put the video up is,
I'm experiencing a ton of hate on the internet,
and I'm just a character, you know?
There's never an interview of me talking about how I feel about this man at all.
And that's unfortunate because there was a lot of heartfelt conversations.
But I think that they didn't air all that because he had picked Laura.
Of course, of course, yeah, absolutely.
Is it safe to say that the relationship you are currently in is--
Real.
My real life, my 96-year-old grandmother
had a flight to my wedding.
And within days, he was with you.
He met my whole family.
Very few people in my entire life have met the most important people to me.
He held my dog.
And then, literally, hours later,
basically decided that he had chosen you instead.
That is why I'm coming in so hot.
The fact that you guys have--
First of all, Sarah Ann, you've had a year to reach out.
We had that little lake day party.
Half that conversation felt like you were asking me for advice
on your new relationship with him,
which I wanted absolutely nothing to do with, obviously.
I was hoping and praying for you guys to come in here with some humility
and come with an apology and realize that this was my real life.
I understand you guys are together now, whatever, that's fine,
but this was my real life, my real fiancé,
my real engagement, my real wedding
that was made a mockery of by the two of you.
And then you come here with heat towards me like I did something wrong.
All we're trying to say is there seems to be a disconnect
between what's happening on the internet and real life.
-This is your real life. -[Jeramey] Mm-hmm.
This is your real life and now your real babies and families.
Even Laura over there, she's like, "My 96-year-old grandma."
"This was my real life that was made a mockery of."
The show didn't make a mockery of her.
-This situation did. -[Jeramey] Mm-hmm.
So she's wanting to know, as are people who see that.
Do you see it as entertainment, whereas this is their life?
-This is their future, their love. -[Sarah Ann] Yeah.
[Vanessa] Do you think you were trying to entertain?
No, no.
And I'll clarify that right now. Probably taken out of context.
That was, to be quite frank, to put out entertainment of my own.
Um, so…
But no, I think the experiment does work.
I mean, I'm sitting next to someone that,
you know, I love with all my heart.
And in my pursuit of love, I--
hearts got broken.
And I apologize for that. That's not what I wanted, Laura.
That's not what I wanted.
I'm sorry.
I still maintain that nothing happened between Sarah Ann and I that night.
It was wrong, should not have done it.
That's not her fault. That is-- that is absolutely on me,
and I'm sorry for that.
To take some accountability,
that's all I've been waiting for for a year.
We are happy you found each other.
There could've been, probably Laura agrees,
a better way for all of this to unfold.
Unfortunately, it did not. You said your piece.
Laura.
Are you dating anyone right now?
-[woman 15] Ooh. -[laughing] Um…
[all laughing]
[Laura] Yes.
-I am. [laughing] -[all cheering]
It's late where you are. Thank you so much for joining us today.
-We wish you the best. -Wait!
No. Yes, what?
We're not gonna discuss "bean dip"?
-[AD] Oh, please no. -[Laura] Two seconds to clear it up.
-[laughing] -[Laura] AD, I love Clay.
AD was my very close friend in the lounge, in the pods.
We were playful. I'm a goofball.
Bean dip was a joke. It was a playful thing.
There was no disrespect meant behind it.
I've apologized to her face-to-face, on camera, off camera.
I'll do it all day every day.
I apologize if there was any disrespect insinuated in any way.
It was not intended. I love you guys so much.
It was a joke that was just taken completely out of context, and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for throwing that out into the world.
Now that's a very Googled term
that should've never been Googled to begin with.
-[AD laughing] -So I'm sorry.
-[Vanessa] Okay. -All right, moving on, huh?
Whoo! I'm hot.
Guys, one of the biggest scandals to break
since this season premiered involves our next guest.
So, everyone, please join me in welcoming the mullet-man himself.
Trevor.
[dance music playing]
[chattering]
[Nick] The mullet's back, baby.
-[Johnny] Damn, Trev! -[Trevor] Oh. What's up?
[Vanessa] We're stacking these couches. You have enough room?
-No. -[laughing]
-How's it going, buddy? -[Vanessa] We're gonna get right into it.
Trevor, hi.
When the season premiered, people were posting,
"Protect Trevor at all costs."
And "if anyone hurts Trevor, they're dead to me."
Then something came out that shocked everyone.
Screenshots came out on the internet which were allegedly between you, Trevor,
and the girlfriend that you had at the same time
that you were participating in this experiment.
[Nick] Yes, in fact, you were texting her as you were traveling here
and as soon as you left the pods.
We actually have the texts. So let's go ahead and take a look.
[woman 16] Show the receipts.
-[Nick] "I love you so much, honey." -[all] Ooh!
[Nick] "I'm excited for it, but more excited to get back to you after
and start our life together."
[Vanessa] She responded with, "Did you land?"
[Nick] Trevor responded, "Just did."
Then, skipping to when you left the pods, you again wrote,
"Do you still love me?"
[Vanessa] She says, "Pumpkin, I'm crying."
[Nick] Trevor then says, "Can I call you in 30 minutes?"
[Vanessa] She said, "I missed you so much."
Trevor wrote, "I love you more than anything in this world."
-"And I'm going to marry you." -[woman 17] Oh!
[Vanessa] She says, "Yes. Call me. I can't wait."
[Nick] Trevor says, "I hope you know how much I love you
and had to pretend that this wasn't real life to say anything I said."
[Vanessa] She responds with, "It's okay, pumpkin."
[Nick] Now, Trevor, I'd like to hear
what you have to say.
-Yeah, me too. [laughing] -[Nick] Certainly a lot to unpack there.
I think not only Vanessa and I, but everyone on this stage,
would love to hear what you have to say about that.
Um…
-Nah, say it with your chest. -[laughing]
-[AD] Don't get quiet now. -[Micah] Oh!
[AD] Don't get quiet now.
[laughing]
I… I had a whole thing planned to say.
I don't know.
Um…
Yeah.
So…
I guess I'll start by saying that
I was not dating her…
"dating" her, technically. Like, I never said, "Will you be my girlfriend?"
before the show started.
But there definitely was…
Like, obviously, we were close, but she knew…
She was the typical girl I'd go for in real life.
And I told her before, like, "I want to go on this
to try to experiment with something else."
Like, there's no justifying that.
That sounds fucking horrible what I just said, and that…
that is horrible.
But I…
wanted to do this.
Like, I wanted to meet somebody that I wouldn't go for in real life.
It is fucked up that I was…
acted like that with someone else right before going on and right after,
but I went in with the mindset of, like,
I will find someone. Like, I wanna try it.
I don't fucking know. There isn't an answer for that.
-[Nick] You're saying "I love you…" -Yes.
…to this woman as you're entering the experiment,
as you're entering the pods.
-Yes. -To say, "She wasn't my girlfriend…"
You don't say "I love you" to someone you don't care about.
[Trevor] I mean, I did care about her.
[Nick] You're going with you didn't love her?
No, no, no, I did.
So, I'm saying, how unfair is it to everyone on the stage…
And I'll call out Chelsea directly
because there was a moment there where she easily could have said,
"Trevor, you are the one for me. You're my life partner."
Unbeknownst to her, you have someone on the outside.
I would have been with Chelsea.
I told her that. She knew that.
Like, she-- her and I were so fucking toxic.
So toxic that after you get out of the pods,
you said, "Going to marry you"?
Yes, yes!
I'm toxic as well. I admit that.
Like, I need a lot of, like, therapy.
I went in with this of, like,
I know I'm toxic. I know I need to fucking change.
I…
-I don't know what you want me to say. -Do you guys wanna say anything?
[woman 18] Oh.
[laughing]
-I'll stay out of it, Pumpkin. -[laughing]
-Not "Pumpkin." -Jimmy, your time's coming. Don't worry.
I definitely am not here to grill you by any means.
It didn't work out for us.
And I had just this intuition of why I shouldn't have picked you.
I couldn't explain it, and now I can.
[Brittany] I think it's just disrespectful.
Because we all put ten toes down into this experience.
For you to also be playing the other woman,
that's also disrespectful.
[Chelsea 2] Mm-hmm.
[Brittany] A little concerning that she was okay with it.
[Trevor] I agree.
Um, but, yeah, it's disrespectful to them as well.
I mean, it's the same thing that you were asking Sarah Ann earlier.
What about us that are going in this with the right intentions,
doing the right thing.
[Chelsea 2] What if I did choose you?
Would she be lingering around, just like…
No, I told her that up front. I was like, "You and I are toxic together."
"If I meet someone in here, then I'm staying with someone in here."
-You told her you were gonna marry her. -[Trevor] Yeah, when I left, 'cause…
When I left, I was a fucking emotional wreck.
Johnny, you were there when I walked out of the pods that day. Was I not…
-It was really bad. It was really bad. -Like, way worse than is shown.
Like, I did get into the experiment when I got here.
Johnny was in the lounge and saw me, and I know you guys trust Johnny.
[laughing]
[Brittany] King Johnny.
Were you more hurt of leaving Chelsea or because you were leaving the show?
I didn't care about leaving the show. Can I, like, just leave right now?
-Go ahead. -Chelsea has been raked over the coals.
No, and I will--
[Jessica] You could've come to her rescue.
Even I have asked for a cease-fire on Jimmy.
And at any point, you could have just been--
I have made comments helping Chelsea.
Did you come here to forward your career and be on TV?
[Trevor] No, what career? I mean--
[Vanessa] I have no idea.
I did come here for
good and bad reasons.
I can't take back that I went on the show.
I'm glad I went on the show 'cause it taught me a lot about myself.
And, Chelsea, like, I was myself in those pods.
I hope you know that.
And any clarity you need off camera, like, I will give to you,
You're the only person that I owe any response to.
Like, I don't give a fuck about people online.
I don't need to respond to them, but you, if you need that, I will give it to you.
I appreciate you.
Sarah Ann, we've talked about your suggestion
that this is just done for entertainment.
There's been suggestions that maybe you were here for the wrong reasons.
Guys, I wanna say participating in Love Is Blind,
it's really a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
Vanessa and I believed in it from season one. You can see the results.
Look around this room. Look at this couch right here.
We do not want people to come here motivated by fame.
That's not what this is about.
It's not fair to the audience,
and most importantly, it's not fair to the people right here,
the people who've invested genuinely
in what this thing is truly, truly all about.
It's just wrong. It really is.
For people who come here with ulterior motives, we've gotta call you out for it.
So, Trevor, I know you asked to leave. You can leave now, man.
[woman 19] Oh, my God.
[Trevor exhales]
[Vanessa] On that note, I'm gonna change the subject.
Oh, my gosh! We have a sign in the audience!
-"AD All Day." Yes! -[cheering]
A couple that we were really rooting for.
-[AD sighs] -AD and Clay.
We wanna know what happened
after the weeks following the wedding.
A lot of weeks went by before we spoke.
Um, I just wasn't in a place to speak to him.
I really had nothing to say.
Yeah, I just thought from a respect level, that I shouldn't reach out automatically.
I just think when you go through a heartbreak like that,
it's just sometimes hard to, you know, look each other in the face.
It's just been a little bit of a rough ride after the, uh, altar.
So who contacted who first to get together?
He called me, duh.
-[laughing] -He called me.
Yeah, I got a couple, like, messages that wasn't responded to, but yeah.
What was it like for the two of you to watch the wedding back?
-That was tough. -[Vanessa] Hmm.
That was really tough.
I mean, it's not normal to watch yourself have a meltdown.
And I mean, the love that I had for this man…
[shudders] Hmm.
It was tough to watch
because it was such a lead up for such a crazy letdown.
This process is unique.
You know, you get a chance to essentially watch yourself, you know,
like a fly on the wall to your own life.
And, you know, just kind of seeing everything,
and it was really emotional for me to watch.
You know, seeing AD interact on the other lounge
and how excited she was,
like, to me watching it, I just felt like the biggest dick.
I felt like, you know, I disrespected her family,
and I apologized to, you know, your mom and your sisters,
because they all met me with grace.
And, like, even to hear that, you know,
that I disrespected them, that I wasted their time.
You know, that definitely hurt.
[Nick] This is a tough question to ask.
And hindsight is always 20/20.
But looking back,
would you have done things differently?
You know, Nick, that's a good question.
I think throughout this whole process, one of the biggest things I struggled with
was getting out of my own way.
I kind of battle with, like, the morality of, like, am I a good person?
Am I a bad person? And AD always, like, navigated me.
She always made sure she uplifted me and made me feel like the best person.
But I couldn't get out of my own way.
I kept looking at myself like, "I'm not the guy that deserves love and marriage."
And, you know, AD's really seen me through.
She's honestly the love of my life.
And I will tell you, honestly, I did make a mistake,
you know, going to the altar and saying no.
But, you know, it's one of those things
that you just kind of go through and live through, you know.
And I'm humbled to watch myself and see that
there was different things that I didn't do well.
And you know, I'm definitely taking the work.
I've been doing therapy to be a better person, you know.
Because I do think that, you know,
it was a big letdown, and I apologize.
I love you. You are the love of my life, and it was a mistake.
[Vanessa] AD, that was like a roller coaster of emotions.
I'm watching you go from, like, "oh, here we go" to "oh, my goodness."
What are you feeling hearing Clay say all of these things?
It just takes me right back to
day one of falling for him
and knowing that I could be everything that he needed
and knowing that, like, there's nothing more that I could have done.
And then to hear him say it was a mistake is, like,
what am I supposed to do with that information?
[Vanessa] Mm-hmm.
Do you think you would ever date him again?
[all laughing]
-Next question. -[laughing]
[Vanessa] Clay, would you ever date her again?
-1,000%. -[woman 20] Oh, my gosh.
-[AD] Nuh-uh! -[laughing]
[AD exclaims]
-You had your chance. -[Clay] I did.
-I did. -You had your chance. I was wide--
There's nothing that I wouldn't have given you.
And there's nothing I wouldn't have done for you.
And I feel like, low-key,
respectfully, you played in my fucking face.
You played in my face. You knew you didn't wanna get married.
-That's not true. -Then why are we not married?
[woman 21] Ooh.
You know, when it was happening, I wanted to say yes.
I saw you walk across on the altar.
And I was, like, "This is my wife."
As it was going on, I'm looking at you.
I'm like, "I don't know if I could show up for you every single day." It's just…
I'm sure people who experience this, that's been through the experiment,
you know, days are like weeks.
Moments and that time at the altar, when she walked down the altar,
I swear, it was like three days.
I'm just going back and forth of, like, watching her.
"She's so beautiful."
"Clay, you know who you are." "But AD."
It's a lot of things that you're battling with.
And for me, Nick, I would say that
I didn't put the work in to understand love
before I got in the process.
And I believe I almost was getting diagnosed on camera
as, like, this red flag or this guy who has,
you know, dad issues and something like that.
But I received it, you know. At the end of the day, I didn't do the process right.
I disrespected AD. I love her.
And it hurts that you don't even think that, you know, so…
-[Vanessa] Clay. -Yeah.
Do you think you're ready now? It's been a year.
Yeah, I think I put the work in. I wasn't bullshitting.
Uh, I went to therapy. I tried different therapists out, even.
You know, trying to see what worked for me.
You know, I wanna be a good guy. I wanna be the best version I can be.
-It sucks that I wasn't like that for you. -You are a good guy.
I swear. It really wasn't intentional.
Like, I'm watching it back,
and it broke my heart to break your heart, honestly.
-And that was not my intention. -[exhales]
Um, it happened, and I'll take everything that comes with it.
I came out a different man,
and I have to credit that to AD.
When someone changes your life, you just don't turn your back on them.
And, you know, that's just me being here for her.
-I applaud you for growth. -Yeah.
I applaud you as a man for being willing to say,
"I need to take a look at myself, and I need therapy."
"I wanna seek that out."
"I wanna be a better person for myself and for others."
That takes a lot of courage to, A, one, do.
-And B, say on national television. -[Vanessa] Follow through.
[Nick] So I applaud you for that, man, really.
It was hard watching because there were so many layers to your love story.
[Nick] Mm. I'm curious, AD, how did you feel when you watched it back,
watching that conversation between Clay's mom and his dad?
Um, I thought in watching it with Vanessa,
that was a pretty heavy moment, a pretty insightful moment.
Did it give you any more understanding as to why things were the way they were?
I think that conversation really, um,
closed the circle for me.
There were a lot of missing pieces that I just could not quite understand,
and I knew that Clay's parents had gone through their trials.
And hearing that conversation really showed me
that he was battling things that I just-- that there's nothing I could have done
to take that stress from him.
Hearing that conversation, I was, like, "Wow."
Like, "That was deep."
And I didn't wanna, respectfully, be Clay's mom in the long run.
-I didn't want that to be my story. -[Vanessa] Well, yeah.
[Nick] Clay, how was that conversation for you to watch?
Between your mom and your dad?
Uh, it was tough, I would say, you know.
We're still going through our family and… and searching for healing, so…
I think a lot of Black men could resonate with this
in terms of just having broken households.
But one thing about my parents is that they never made us feel any type of way.
They did their best to raise us, and that's their story.
And AD's mom said it best.
She said that I can't be taking on my parents' stuff.
I gotta do what's good for me.
And that's the reason why I took that approach to go to therapy,
so I could stop, you know, wearing the baggage that my parents left me
and, you know, go my own way.
[Nick] You mentioned the healing.
Part of that healing I think was…
I remember your mom tasking your father with apologizing to you
for some of the memories and the experiences you had as a youth
and how it's, maybe, shaped your path.
-Yeah. -[Nick] Has that apology happened?
Have you had that chance to have that moment with your father?
It's, uh, it's not--
Me and my dad have a great relationship in terms of our banter.
It hasn't been like, "I'm sorry," but in his way, it has been.
And I feel comfortable with his answer and who he is as a man.
I don't, like, throw any stones at him,
you know, 'cause my dad's a good father.
I just… It's my first time expressing
that this is something that is affecting me,
because you don't really see from men how to be a good husband.
It's always, like, "Happy wife, happy life."
You don't really hear the experience.
Especially as a guy like me, I was an athlete.
Just how to transition from going from a little bit of a rock star life
to now you're just with one person.
There's really nobody that explains it, talks about it.
You're speaking of examples of how to be a good husband.
There was one conversation you had with AD
where you said you'd been watching Love Is Blind for the first time,
and it made you nervous because, as you said,
"That is what a husband is supposed to come like. Says the right things."
So I'm curious who in that moment
you were referring to when watching Love Is Blind.
[laughs] Uh, so it's very documented
I didn't watch Love Is Blind before I joined the show.
Actually, it was funny, when I seen AD and her mom,
they put on Love Is Blind season four, and I was referring to Brett.
-I thought that Brett was… -[chuckles]
[Clay] I felt like he did everything. He said all the right things.
He just personified as a good Black man or a good husband--
Not even Black man, just a good husband.
And you know, I just looked at him, and I was like, "I don't think that
who I am could do at all what Brett did."
It was a little pessimistic thought.
But even with that, you know, I give myself grace.
I do it in my own way.
And I'm not even happy with that comment,
but the compliment is I do think Brett is a stand-up guy.
And I was just looking and, you know, thinking of that sense.
We're lucky to have Brett and Tiffany with us here today.
Guys.
[Vanessa] How does that make you feel hearing that, Brett?
Ooh. I just wanna say thank you, man.
Um, that's not… it's very humbling to hear, honestly.
Um…
I don't know why I'm getting emotional talking because, um…
Like, I didn't really come from, like, the perfect household either,
in terms of my mom and my dad and their relationship.
Um, and there was a lot of things that I was concerned
about how I would show up going through this experiment.
Um…
And as a credit to her, like, she created the space for me to,
um… be the person that I knew that I could be.
Um, and, you know, it's… it's very humbling to hear.
Um, but even going through everything,
I had a lot of doubts, and I was very concerned about, like,
am I gonna be a good husband?
Yeah, we good now while we're filming, but, like, when the cameras are off,
am I gonna know how to show up?
Am I gonna know how to be the husband
that she expects me to be and the husband that I want to be?
-You know? Hope I'm doing good. -[laughs] You're doing great, babe.
-[laughing] -[Brett] Uh, but, um…
Yeah, man, I just-- it's very humbling to hear that.
Especially, you know,
Black man to Black man, you know, it's, um…
I'm humbled. Thank you.
All good.
Tiffany, how is Brett showing up in the husband department?
-He's doing all right? -Oh! He's doing more than all right.
-[Nick laughs] No doubts. -And I think it's great.
Because every day I fall more in love with him.
-So, you're doing great. -[all laughing]
What's ahead for the two of you? Catch us up.
Well, I mean, Brett and I have just been traveling the world.
Um, we actually have a trip coming up in April to Japan.
Which I know is one of your favorite places.
Um, and we are laying down some roots in Portland.
We're actually looking for homes right now.
It'll be our first home, so…
Um, I'm excited to get that started.
I love it. Well, thank you for being here today with us.
You're happy in love.
And talking about happy in love with our couple this season,
Johnny and Amy, you guys also have a fun and funky relationship.
We've actually got a look back at some highlights.
-From your first year of marriage. Look. -Oh, God. [laughs]
All right, so today on Johnny's kitchen,
we're gonna be making some… [laughs]
We're actually gonna be feeding me a little tomato.
We have tomatoes down there.
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna grab my tomato.
I'm gonna open it up. Uh, there I go. I'm gonna go…
-Oh! -[laughing]
-[Amy mutters] -Yummy, yummy, in my tummy.
[laughing]
[Johnny, Amy] Three, two, one!
[shouting]
[woman 22] Yeah!
-Happy New Year, babe. -Happy New Year!
[both laugh]
-The things I do for her! -[shouts]
-[laughing] -[Amy] Oh!
[pop music playing]
-You've done that. -Yeah.
[Johnny] Wife!
♪ Do it for me, the love gonna be ♪
-[Nick] Wow! You guys, uh… -[Vanessa] Yeah!
You packed a lot into your first year of marriage. That's awesome.
-We're trying. -Absolutely.
Since you guys are new to this whole marriage thing,
let's ask you this, what's the best thing about your spouse?
I don't know. I feel it's kind of everything.
Like the fact that you don't just jump the gun to assumptions,
and you actually hear me out for things I say,
things I ask, just questions in general
and really wanna know where I'm coming from, from a place of love.
That's probably the biggest one.
He's just so gentle and caring and loving.
Like, I couldn't have had a better man.
-Like, forever grateful for him. -Thank you, baby.
-For sure. -[Vanessa] Aww.
I remember you said in one of the episodes
that you wanted to have, like, a drag-out fight.
So it's been a year.
-[Nick laughs] -[Vanessa] Have y'all had a fight?
-Not really! No. -[laughing]
[Johnny] It's really, like, weird to think about it, but…
it has been relatively easy.
-Granted, we have disagreements. -Yeah.
-But it's, like, we just talk. -[Vanessa] All right.
So who does the household chores?
[Amy] Both of us, but he beats me to it.
-He beats me to it for sure. -[Vanessa] He beats you to it?
Especially when it comes to laundry and dishes.
-I just… He's on top of it. -Jeramey, just like you.
I cannot stand when dishes are in the sink that are dirty.
-So I do it right away. -[Amy] Yeah.
I will say, like, between that and then you stacking up the plates, Clay,
we got a clean little group of men.
-I love that! I love that. -[Vanessa] Yeah.
Okay, well, social media has been lighting up this season,
and we have some viewer questions
that our former cast members are gonna help get some answers to.
-So, Chelsea, hey. -Hi.
-[Vanessa] You have our first question. -Awesome, this is for Jessica.
"Jessica, what does Autumn think of all of this?"
"And did you let her watch the show?"
I've seen that question a lot too.
Um, Autumn is still over the moon excited.
She's loving it. I didn't let her watch the show in its entirety.
I mean, she's met mostly all of the female cast.
And there are certain things, like…
I don't want her being, like,
"Who was Aunt Chelsea talking about when she said…" You know?
So, she loves it, but, honestly,
I didn't even realize this before I went,
Autumn had actually really never even seen me cry before.
Like, my whole, you know, thing with her has always been, like, I'm strong.
Like, you know, and moms get it,
Like, your breakdowns have to be, like, scheduled.
Like, you can't just have a moment in the middle of the day.
But in a way, it's been a huge blessing,
because it's allowed her to see me be a little bit more human.
Which in turn is gonna help her.
God, I cannot talk about her without losing it.
[laughing]
[Jessica] It will help her know that--
Crying and showing your emotions doesn't make you weak, and it's okay.
So anyway, to wrap that up, she loves it, and yeah.
[Vanessa] Thank you, Jess.
-Thank you, Chelsea. -[Chelsea 1] Thank you.
[Vanessa] Gigi, you've the next question.
This is for Johnny and Amy.
It says, "I'm confused. Were condoms not an option?"
[laughing]
Clearly, I'm the poster child for birth control.
[laughing]
Yes, uh, condoms were always an option.
I think the big thing that I really wanna point out is that
I didn't really know too much about the whole topic of birth control at all
until I really had the first conversation with Amy.
After that, we basically went back to our corners,
did more research on the whole subject,
and then we came back and found, like, an actual reason of,
"Hey, let's move forward with this specific option."
Um, but something I really never had to think about I feel like as a guy
because it wasn't something that I was…
thinking about constantly.
[Amy] And there were continuous conversations too, and I feel like,
respectfully, I had to educate him a lot. [laughs]
But, um, you know, we figured it out.
I never ended up going on birth control.
He never got a vasectomy. I was never forced to do anything.
Otherwise, we would've been on separate ends of the couch.
But yeah, no, we figured it out. And that's all that matters.
-Good. You guys had a lot of discipline. -[Amy] Yeah.
[laughing]
[Nick] Uh, I think Alexa has our next question.
Okay, so Sarah Ann, she has taken a lot of heat for her DM that she sent,
but, Chelsea, I have a question for you.
"What did you think about the conversation
Jessica and Laura had about Jimmy when they met up at the bar?"
"Did you think it was appropriate?"
It was an odd conversation for me to see and actually witness it,
because it was a little bit disrespectful to my relationship,
when I'm going through the trenches,
trying to figure out, like, "Is this my man?"
Like, "How do we make it work?"
And I, obviously, it's not a secret, had insecurities during the show.
And, you know, it kind of just added to that feeling,
so, um, it hurt a little bit,
but Jess and I are on really good terms. I love you with my whole heart.
I didn't have any malicious intent,
but it was completely absent-minded. That's one of my best friends.
And this is wildly disrespectful.
And I don't expect any grace for that. That was not my best moment.
[Vanessa] Thanks, Alexa.
We have Tiffany. Hey, girl.
You have the next question.
Sarah Ann.
[laughs] "So does Jeramey share his location with you?"
-[laughing] -He does. He does.
-And he does that willingly, so, um… -Apparently, that's my thing.
[laughing]
[Nick] Our next question is coming from Micah.
-[Micah] Oh, my God. -[Nick] What's up?
-Yay, I wanted to get involved! Okay. -[laughing]
Okay. Mine's for Jimmy.
What did your friend think
about Chelsea sharing your little secret with the world?
[audience] Ooh!
[Jimmy] Um, you know, I knew coming on a TV show,
I'm putting myself out there.
Um, she didn't deserve that, and…
She didn't love hearing it. She was there for me as a friend
and someone that loved me. Someone that wanted to support me.
You know, I got a ton of dude friends in my life, but with--
When I'm talking to guys, I'm not getting emotional with the fellas.
The girls will, like, let me lay into them about where I'm at with everything.
I was trying so hard in my relationship, and they came on to support me.
They came on to be a friend to her,
and I told… I told…
[chuckles] I'm getting ahead of myself. I told you out of confidence.
And they felt…
One of them is really pissed off at me for mentioning it.
-[Micah] Yeah. -So I told her about them in the pods.
I was very forward.
Also, she had an ex-boyfriend that she still hangs out with.
-I don't. I don't hang out with him. -All right, well, I misheard you, sorry.
I think we misheard each other in a lot of things, to be honest.
But I hated that all this came out so bad, and…
"I can take it, they didn't deserve it" is the main way I can put it.
But I would be robbing her if I didn't tell her.
I told her because I was planning to get married to her,
and she needed to know every bit of me.
-I get that, for sure. -[Nick] I'm curious.
The rest of you, how do you feel about
this situation of Jimmy sharing a secret with Chelsea
and her sharing that secret on camera?
Who thinks that the secret shared in confidence
shouldn't have been repeated on camera?
-Yeah. -Maybe don't say the bean dip thing.
That was in confidence too, so…
-[Vanessa] Say the what? Oh. -Yeah. Nothing.
-[Vanessa] We going back to bean dip? -[laughing]
[Nick] Do you guys think she had a right to say that on camera?
If they had the conversation in confidence,
then I don't think that she should've.
But I also get, you know,
I'mma give Chelsea some grace. It's an emotional experience.
[Micah] I think that also if it was something
that was affecting her and affecting their relationship, she has to show it.
I'm sure a lot of her comments back to him and feelings back to him
were coming from a place of hurt from that information.
-[Jimmy] Yeah. -100%. It's a real-life relationship.
That was a huge issue, and it was really sitting on me.
And I apologize more than--
I could never apologize enough
for how horrible I feel for bringing it up and ruining that trust.
'Cause it ruined everything.
And it was just a true issue that I just couldn't get off my chest,
and it coming out was just--
I forget about the cameras.
I didn't even realize the cameras were there.
It was just a huge argument that just blew up, and I'm really sorry.
We've talked about it a hundred times, and we even tried to work through it.
Um, ultimately, she has feelings that,
you know, made her feel a certain way.
She has the right to speak up on that. She's not in the wrong for saying it.
I just didn't love the fashion how it came up.
Me neither, my guy, me neither. That was awful. Absolutely awful.
[Nick] Jimmy, looking back on that, do you think that was a defining moment
in your guys' relationship together?
Yeah, absolutely.
I can see it in my eyes when I'm speaking.
Everything after that.
That, you know, we were kind of going through the motions.
And it's easy to see in hindsight what was the right decision.
And the right decision would've been for me to let you go at that point.
Um, but I drug it on partially because we loved each other so much.
[Nick] I'm curious to hear from everybody else up here.
You guys all got to watch their story kind of unfold in real-time,
but then watching it back and seeing more of what happened behind closed doors,
did it change your perception of them as a couple,
change your perception of what they were going through, what they were living?
[AD] It did for me.
[exhales] Um, I know Chelsea is so fun
and bubbly and outgoing
and just carefree,
and to see her, like, that way
and, like, the insecurities be highlighted like that
was really, really, really tough to watch, because we don't know that side of you.
We know this very confident and very proud woman.
And so to see you kind of go through that emotional roller coaster…
-[Chelsea 2] Mm-hmm. Yeah. -That was wild to watch.
-[Vanessa] Thank you guys for sharing. - Yeah.
[Vanessa] Jessica.
Hey, girl.
Um, I wanna take it back to the lake party
when you and Jimmy were having a conversation.
There seemed to be some sparks flying,
lots of chemistry.
Like, I don't feel like I was feeling chemistry.
I think I was still attached to, like…
You heard me say earlier in the season,
um, like, he has a part of me I feel like I'll never get back.
And being able to, like, be in front of him in person
and feeling like he does still have that.
And I was happy, because I still feel grateful for it
that I was able to share those moments
and share things about myself with someone.
-Yeah. -But I think he and I both agreed.
It was an unspoken thing that we knew it wouldn't have worked.
[Nick] You agree?
Yeah, I mean, I was very eager to meet her,
but, you know, I'm an engaged man, and I was there for Chelsea at that point,
and I wanted to make sure she knew I was all hands on deck there.
Um, but I think that conversation,
obviously, there was a ton of chemistry between the two of us,
and when we connected, it was more of a friend thing.
Kind of… It's… It's weird.
It is a weird feeling having two women tell you they love you.
And I truthfully hope I never have that happen to me ever again.
[laughing]
Viewers obviously got to see that moment where you guys saw each other at the lake.
But they were disappointed they didn't get a chance
to see your reaction when you saw a picture of her for the very first time.
So, Jimmy, be honest.
Did you in fact choke…
[all laughing]
…as Jessica predicted you would, when you saw that picture?
Jess doesn't need me to tell her this, but you're absolutely stunning.
-You're gorgeous. -Thank you so much.
[Vanessa] There's a moment that you talked about, Jimmy,
you following her on social media
and then really quickly unfollowing her.
I did follow her along with everybody else at the same time
the moment I got my phone back.
Um, yeah, I was eager to see her, I've already hit on that.
But, um, I did withdraw it.
I mean, she…
She saw it.
I was giving… I was giving her the nod of approval
that I'm curious to see, and I don't know.
It just became a weird thing to me, and so I just withdrew it.
Went private. "You're not gonna look at my profile either."
But, apparently, you already did your own digging before that, so…
Yeah, I mean, no, I saw your friend request come through
and I was like, "Is that who I think it is?"
And I was like, "Oh, my God, it is."
"Well, he's the one who has his profile on public."
"Like, this is why I have mine on private."
So when you followed her, is that when you saw the picture?
Jeramey showed me the picture in the gym when we were working out.
[Vanessa] Jeramey!
It came up in a conversation, and I was, like, "Oh, yeah."
[Vanessa] You and Chelsea are best friends.
I love that. Your daughter calls her Auntie Chelsea.
Are you and Jimmy friends?
I thought we were.
I did. Um…
After the lake party, I mean, you guys saw, we left on great terms.
And then when the show came out, I knew it might be bad for him.
I didn't think it was going to be to the extent that it was.
All the hate that he and Chelsea were receiving.
And I was mortified by it.
I sent him a message, and I told Chelsea about it when I sent it.
I said, "Hey, listen, like, I'm not finding enjoyment
in seeing people drag you through hell."
There's some things rightfully so you should be given a hard time on.
But some things people were upset about,
I was like, "I'm not gonna let you be bullied into oblivion."
"When the time comes, I'm not gonna let you go out like that."
And then, like, you've seen us joke on social media
and, like, comment on each other's stuff.
And then I saw an interview that you did recently.
And I was infuriated.
-What part? -[Jessica] I've had plenty of interviews.
And I've taken every opportunity I've had
to speak highly of you, our experience,
how grateful I am to have had it with you and everything.
And it seemed like you took the first opportunity you had
to just, I guess, make an attempt at throwing me under the bus,
but also just flat-out, bald-faced lie.
You said that I hammered you about
wanting to continue to explore your connections, which wasn't true.
It seemed multiple times, I'm telling you,
when and if you choose me, I want you to be sure of it,
so please explore and do whatever you need to do.
And then you also said that ten minutes into our…
one of our last dates, I just stormed out, which also isn't true.
-[Jimmy] You did. -[Jessica] We were in for an hour.
It is also shown that I said, "Listen, at this point, it feels forced,
and I think that we should take an intermission," which you agreed to.
You said, "I think that's a good idea."
So I was just so caught off guard by what motivated you,
like, what provoked you
and what made you wanna say, like, horrible things about me.
[Jimmy] I have a side,
'cause I'm being asked why I didn't choose you.
And that's part of the reason,
the way you talked to me during our last date,
you leaving the date early.
I'm sorry if that's throwing shade at you.
Did you not want me to leave the date early?
[Jimmy] No, I wanted you to stay.
Why did you agree with me and say,
"I agree, I think we should take an intermission"?
Actually, you said, "I think we should stop."
If you wanted me to stay, why didn't you ask me to stay and work it out?
I… That was after the fact that we went through
the period of time where I told you, um…
Like, you were literally saying, "What else do you freakin' need from me?"
I was like, "Well, I wanna learn a bit more about you."
And you're like… Your tone of voice was just offsetting for me, and…
I didn't say horrible things.
I said you walked out on our date when I still hadn't made a decision.
[Jessica] You said I stormed out in ten minutes.
After you read my letter and had nothing to say back.
I know I didn't have the reaction you wanted to.
That's two questions,
but I didn't have the reaction you wanted there.
And I couldn't give it to you.
It would've been manipulative to tell you "I love you" if I didn't feel it.
Um, I read it because you gave it to me.
Maybe I shouldn't have read it. I think we both can agree to that.
Um…
I wasn't looking for you to tell me that you loved me.
It's even shown that I say that. I said, "Just give me something."
Okay, well, you were on the girls' side saying you loved me.
You never voiced that to me.
So there was… there was two sides to not voicing our opinions.
You never once told me you loved me. I don't know why I have to go first.
I wanted you to say it first.
I felt like I had given you so much
and shared the most intimate details of myself,
my daughter, my past.
The things I shared with you,
I've never shared in any relationship I've ever been in.
I felt like
the least you could've done was just meet me with…
If it wasn't an "I love you," just your feelings.
Period.
Were you looking for her to say "I love you"? Were you waiting on that?
Was that something that would've been meaningful to you?
No, and I'm kind of backtracking and going to her leaving the date early.
That did happen.
An hour and a half into it.
-Not ten minutes. -[Jimmy] Um…
I maybe give you 45 minutes, but it felt like ten minutes to me.
Your perception was ten minutes.
You're, like, "I'll give you 45."
You went in an interview
and said that's actually how it happened.
Not "this is how I felt."
But "yeah, this is actually how it happened."
And then you said, "I'm really proud of the edit that she had."
As if
every last thing I did
wasn't real.
It wasn't an edit. It wasn't. No one did me any favors.
And I've been the first to say,
when I had that wine night with Laura, that wasn't my best moment.
If I was getting a "good edit," you think they would have shown that?
I don't know what you were looking for.
But I don't know if that answers your question.
I thought we were on good terms, but I guess that we're not.
[Jimmy] I mean, I have an opinion too.
And every date we had was phenomenal, and everything I would have ever wanted.
And I felt…
I'm saying I gave you 45 minutes.
I still believe it's ten minutes.
Someone please get the receipts, please.
-Hello. -[Jimmy] Oh, my God.
[laughing]
[Jessica] I spilled my drink on myself.
I am a mess all the time.
That's what you have to look forward to.
Can we take a quick break? [chuckles]
-Please. That would be great. -[Jimmy] Okay.
[Jimmy sighs] You in here, Jess?
I'm here.
I'm not giving up.
I'm not walking away or, like, going to bed angry,
but it's feeling forced, and that's just not us.
-Yeah. -So I think we should…
leave it alone for right now.
I'm good with that.
I want you to find the clarity and peace that you need
to figure out who you wanna spend the rest of your life with.
I feel like continuing to talk about it
is making me feel like I'm having to talk you into it.
And I don't want that.
Thank you for wrapping that up, because I can't make up--
[laughing] I can't form a sentence to figure out how to tell you how I feel.
I don't have anything else to say. I really don't.
And maybe I will talk to you later.
Speaking of the media and social media,
something that has taken over this show.
-[laughs] -[Vanessa] Hey, Chelsea.
[Nick laughs]
[Vanessa] The debate about
the comparison
to Megan Fox.
-[Chelsea 2] Bring her? That's all I ask. -[all laughing]
-[Vanessa] She's in the back. -[Nick] Please welcome…
[Vanessa] Trevor's girl.
Um, what are your thoughts
on how this is playing out?
That was… regrets, big time.
It was just a silly, little comment that just slid in there,
and my whole world has flipped upside down.
I'm really, really stinkin' proud of myself for how I've been handling it.
I didn't think I could, 'cause the world is harsh.
And you could say anything. You could say, "I like the color pink,"
and people are gonna demolish you.
Like, it doesn't matter what you say.
I am so proud of myself,
and I have just been taking it with grace and just making humor of it,
and it is what it is.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you. Thank you.
One couple who knows what it feels like to be in a love triangle
but to come out on the other end with a very happy ending
is Zack and Bliss from season four.
You may have heard they're expecting,
and we're excited to share with you a clip from their recent baby shower.
Take a look.
That's gonna be nice.
-[pop music playing] -[all laughing]
Tiff and Chels reporting live from Bliss's baby shower!
-[Chelsea 1] It's good! We're so excited! -[Tiffany] Here we are.
I just can't believe our best friends are having a baby.
So for those of you that might not know, we're having a…
-Baby girl. -A baby girl!
We got a girl on the way.
[Brett] I'll just say we're gonna have some amazing parents.
I have no doubt.
Zack and Bliss, they are madly in love,
the sweetest couple on the planet.
[woman 23] Beautiful!
Cheers to this beautiful couple, and Baby G.
We're all here for you. We love you so much. Thank you.
[cheering]
As my family knows, I was really hoping for a girl.
And this is, I mean, one of the greatest blessings ever.
Uh, next to Bliss.
-[woman 24] Aww. -[woman 25 laughs] Aww.
He kind of covered it all. I love you guys all very much. I do.
And enjoy some wine for me, please.
[all laughing]
[cheering]
-[photographer] One, two, three! -Love is blind!
-[Nick laughs] -[Vanessa] Awesome!
We love seeing our Love Is Blind family growing.
Chelsea, Kwame, Brett, Tiffany,
you guys were there with some of the other Pod Squad.
How are Bliss and Zack doing?
They're doing fantastic.
Um, B and Z are, like… They're great, great people.
And so, like, it's really amazing
to see everything that they've desired and wanted
and everything that this journey has kind of yielded coming to fruition.
Because we know that that's kind of what they wanted.
They lived about five minutes from us in center city,
and then they moved to suburbia, and they knew where their life was headed.
That's what they wanted and envisioned. and it's so cool to see it coming to life.
We see them a lot, call her every day.
We're just really excited. A couple months away.
Bliss and Gigi are not the only ones
from the Love Is Blind family who are expecting.
-Alexa, how are you? How you feeling? -[Vanessa] Hi, Alexa.
Doing very well. I'm just, uh, you know…
It's really fun, really exciting.
It was a journey, for sure. Five months pregnant now.
Went through some fertility issues.
And it was a roller coaster,
and we were, you know, unsure if it was ever gonna happen for us.
And, uh, two months away when we were gonna be starting IVF,
it happened naturally and so, you know…
[laughing] Just…
Um, yeah, and I can't wait to, you know, have our love
be physical, like, in a baby.
I think that's what I'm really excited about
and see a combination of both of us.
And now looking for a house so we can put the baby somewhere.
[laughing]
Um, and the baby has a name and everything.
It's really hard not to say the gender right now, but… [laughs]
-Yeah. -[Brennon] Just wanna say this.
She's been a rock through this whole thing.
It's been an emotional journey
for both of us, her especially.
And, um…
It's, uh, just us wanting to have a family so bad…
It's wonderful having this kind of come to fruition.
-We had a lot of fun practicing, you know? -[Nick] There you go. Yeah, baby.
[laughing]
So Alexa's always been one to be
honest and direct, and we love that about you, girl.
So I wanna ask you if you have any questions for our season six friends.
I have a lot. I learned my lesson at my own reunion.
[laughing] So, I'm not gonna say everything I'm thinking.
-[laughing] -Um, but, Brittany and Kenneth, to you.
I don't wanna make you uncomfy.
-But did either of you just wanna… -Not "uncomfy."
…do it and see if that created the crave?
[laughing]
-[Alexa] Just once. -[Brittany] Thank you for the question.
Finally, we get our time. Okay.
-[laughing] -[Brittany] Honestly.
Um, so going into this,
I made a promise to myself.
I was like, "Look, I'm gonna wait until marriage."
And yes, a lot have asked me that.
We were even asked that in the DR.
Like, "Why don't you just do it and see?"
My thing is that that is a supplement.
And it's more. It's an addition to.
And I should not have to first test that out
to then make my decision.
I wanted to be 100% confident, and that was my choice.
Um, and so I wanted…
We agreed to make a promise to ourselves and to each other,
and that's what we were gonna go with.
And it didn't really need to be tested out to figure out where we were at.
-[Kenneth] Can I add something? -I gotta ask you this.
-When you guys got back from the DR. -Uh-huh.
You could almost hear people screaming for you to get off of your phone!
When you watched it back,
did you realize that you were so into your device
and not so much into your fiancée in that moment?
So I don't wanna say that to my fiancée, 'cause I was.
So I wanna say that, but what I will say is,
um, we all know I'm a principal, right?
I love my kids. I love my families and my parents and my teachers.
I spent about three weeks away from them.
I'm a very on-the-grounds principal.
So what that means is I'm, like, in classrooms, in the hallways.
All those things.
I make commitments to my families and parents and kids every day.
Um, and so, having the opportunity to reconnect with them
was not just for me, but also for them.
They're not used to having that big lapse of absenteeism with me
in their communication.
I love my job. It's the most precious thing to me.
Um, but so is my love, right?
So I'm trying to find the middle ground of how you still keep your commitment
and still, like, honor who you're with too.
Even though I was so on my phone, I own it. I was on my phone a lot!
So people think that he was either playing Candy Crush
or looking at pictures of dolphins.
-"Dolphins." [laughing] -Yeah, that's what he was looking at.
It was a picture of trying to find me in a dolphin costume, okay?
[laughing]
-[Kenneth] That has been the warrant. -[laughing]
[Vanessa] I loved you posted a picture
with your face in a dolphin costume, and she wrote, "I'm just dead."
-[Brittany] I did. -[Nick] Kenneth.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,
but it didn't seem like you were that fazed by the breakup.
And I think some viewers, you know, even calling it gaslighting.
How do you respond to that and to your reaction in that moment?
[Kenneth] Yeah. One, I can totally understand how that looks.
Right? I can own, right, how the perception is.
One thing I think is important to bring to this space is
everyone processes differently.
I know, most times, you see, like, the emotionalism come in.
That was there, doesn't happen at that moment.
And so when people say, like, "Oh, he just didn't care."
Like, no, that actually was not the case.
I called Clay, like, in shambles.
Like, "Bro, this is what happened to me." You know what I'm saying?
So I think that I can understand how it looks, but everyone's different.
Sure. Well, let's move on from the past to the present.
Where do things stand between the two of you now?
-We speak nearly every day. -Yeah.
[Brittany] I get FaceTime calls at work. I call him at work.
I've met people at his school that he talks to.
And I think that although we are no longer in a relationship together,
the bond that we have is gonna last for an eternity.
Um, and I'm happy with that.
You know he's always got his phone, so you can always reach him.
[laughing]
I can say our joke was, he was gonna run down the aisle to me for sure--
-On my phone! -[laughing]
[Kenneth] On the phone.
Like, "Take a picture of me, baby, you'll have it forever."
You guys are friends at this point, which I think is fantastic.
-[Brittany] Very much so. -If friendship comes out of this, amazing.
Do you give each other dating advice?
Have you gotten to the place where you're comfortable doing that?
-Hey, Nick! -You wanna talk about our conversation?
Yeah, we actually had a conversation the other day just about
when we get to the phase of, like, really dating other people,
how will that affect us?
We're extremely close. We talk every day.
It's a very close-knit relationship.
We're also very respectful people.
We don't wanna offend the person
that we talk to because of our rapport with each other.
Because we are very close,
but we gotta also respect our people when do we find them.
Yeah, we're at a good spot.
It's a beautiful thing you guys are at that place. It really is.
[Vanessa] We were talking to previous cast,
and Nick and I were speaking, as well, how this show has become,
not just for everyone watching, but also for the people living it,
a little bit of therapy for all of us.
-Absolutely. -Watching your guys' conversations.
It gave us a space to actually start talking
more about things that we had been putting on the back burner for a while.
And the way you spoke to each other.
Because, you know, we've been together for 18 years,
life happens, kids, job, and you start getting snippy.
And this is the person that you're supposed to be the most respectful to,
and I lo… Sorry.
-Nothing to see here. -I know I'm snippy. I said it.
-[laughing] -I'm spicy! You know what I'm saying?
Um, and to watch you guys speak to each other with so much love
just reminds us what it's about.
I was talking to Alexa and Brennon, and they were like,
"Just seeing this, seeing the communication,
it's why we're all here, to find that love."
And regardless, to find that relationship and that communication.
-So, thank you for giving us all of that. -Yeah. Of course. Of course.
-Thank you. -Yeah.
One that has kept us on our ballet toes from the very beginning
is Colleen and Matt.
-Hi, guys, right over here. -Hi!
Obviously, she's been doing ballet her entire life,
but she just did Princess Aurora in Sleeping Beauty.
It was the most beautiful thing I've seen in my life. It was incredible.
Yay! Congratulations!
[Matt] Yes, please, please.
[Vanessa] Thank you. Love it.
I just have to first say that after seeing and experiencing everything,
us moving in together right after is like a nothing burger. [laughing]
Like, just an afterthought.
'Cause everyone was harping on the fact you were living together.
[Colleen] Yeah. It's like, "Okay, um…"
But with that said, we have, like, moved in together.
[Matt] We have.
[Colleen] Moved into a beautiful townhome. It's amazing.
Anyone who's on this couch right now
who feels like they're going through a hard time,
like, I promise you, you will make it out on the other side.
-Like, you will be okay -For sure. For sure.
And we're, like, proof, basically, that you guys will be okay.
-[Nick] That's great insight. -It's good.
-[Nick] Great to see you doing so good. -[Matt] Thank you.
Thank you guys for being here. Yeah, I love to see it.
This season of Love Is Blind also had a Matt--
Excuse me, a Matthew.
He was invited to attend this reunion, but he politely declined.
I'm sure you recall Matthew was accused of telling two women,
AD and Amber, the same thing in the pods,
but we never actually saw the receipts.
-So, should we watch now and see? -[AD laughs]
-[Johnny] Oh, yeah! -[Nick] Let's do it.
-[Vanessa] I love you saying "receipts." -"Receipts." I know.
[Matthew] I thought I knew yesterday
who I was here for.
Uh-huh.
[Matthew] And…
-After today with you… -[Amber] Yeah?
Oh! [laughing]
[Matthew] I am not sure.
-Interesting. -Okay, Matthew. [laughs]
Today just felt very right. It feels just…
-It feels really good. -Yeah.
No, it does.
Well, thank you for saying that.
[Matthew] I'm just trying to be as honest as I can.
-[Amber] No, I like that. I like honesty. -[AD laughs]
I don't wanna tell something to somebody else, then tell you something,
-[laughing] -[Matthew] I'm just not gonna do that.
Yeah, I don't think you should.
No. I guess when I think about you, I can really see it.
-Really? -[Matthew] Yeah.
Hmm. I'm smiling.
[Matthew] To me, yesterday, with you,
like, something happened.
Something like what?
Oh, my God!
Like, a deep connection.
There's a large part of me that thinks
-that there's really only two outcomes. -Wow…
-[AD] Yeah? -[sighs]
-And that's either with you or not. -Oh! [laughing]
[Matthew] I'm trying to be as honest as I can.
I asked you about your dad,
'cause I really don't know if I could propose without asking permission.
Aww. That is really, really thoughtful.
I just was hoping that I would find a man that's ready, like, right now.
-If you wanna leave, I'll leave with you. -For real?
[Matthew] Yeah, I would. You just say, "Matthew…"
[AD laughing]
"…let's get the hell out of here."
[Amber] One thing you said today about
not feeling right, like, not asking my dad like that.
It just speaks volumes, I think to,
like, who you are.
[Matthew] I just really appreciate that you said that…
This is insane. [laughs]
…you think that's the right way to do it.
'Cause if it got to it…
-Yeah. -[Matthew] And we were at the end…
Yeah.
[Matthew] …I would tell 'em, "I'm not doing it unless I talk to her dad."
-So… -[Amber] Mm.
You want me on the show.
You want us to do these things, fine.
-[Amber] Mm. -But that's… I don't care.
[Amber] I appreciate that.
And, honestly, I would leave too.
[Matthew] Okay.
[Amber] Yeah.
[Vanessa] You think he was saying the same thing to both of you?
-Well, yeah. -[all laughing]
Yeah, absolutely.
I felt all of your, and heard, your emotions during watching that.
-[AD] Yeah. -What are your thoughts on that?
It wasn't that he was saying the same thing to both of us,
it was the fact that I had shared something
so intimate about my father passing.
And, you know, there's moments that I just won't have.
Like, I won't have my future husband
get to ask for my hand in marriage.
And I won't have my father walk me, um, down the aisle.
So when she comes in and she has the same story
as far as, like, the dad thing, that's what really rocked me,
'cause I was like, "Well, my story is obsolete then."
Did you ever reconnect with Matthew
in the real world after the show?
-I did. [laughs] -[man whispers] Oh, shit.
[woman 26] Oh, no.
-[Nick] Okay. Okay. -[Clay] Mm.
[Vanessa] Okay, so…
[Nick] What can you tell us about the little pistachio of Matthew?
-Did you crack him that night? -Um… [sighs]
[laughing]
He's, like, drilling a hole in the side of my head.
-[Vanessa] Does Clay not know? -[Nick] Is this news to you, Clay?
-[clears throat] No, it's not. -[Vanessa] Okay.
-She told me that she met with Matthew. -Okay.
Matthew and I, we went on a few dates.
-[Vanessa] How many? -Um, like, two. Two-ish.
Well, the first one, he wanted to apologize to me.
He was heartbroken.
He was very, very upset about the way everything played out
and the way he felt like he kind of played both of our faces.
So the first one, he really wanted to take the time and apologize.
And I was, like, "You know, Matthew's kind of cute."
Like, low-key, he's cute, y'all, like…
-Respectfully. -[laughing]
Um, anyway, so then we did go on a second date, um…
And he ended up cooking me dinner.
[Nick] How is his cooking? A good cook?
-It was rice and chicken. -[Nick] Oh.
-[laughing] -Nothing special.
[Nick, AD] A for effort.
So… that fizzled out?
It did. We live two completely different lifestyles.
He's very disciplined.
Not like I'm not, but he's, like, extremely to the clock.
Like, every minute is planned out.
Whereas I'm kind of, like, you know, with the wind a little bit.
Um, and he just wants different things, and so do I.
And we left it right there.
Clay, you wanna go run some laps and get this out of your system?
[laughing]
Hey, at the end of the day, it's an experiment.
Um, you know, and Matt did it the way he did it.
I'm not here to kick Matt's back. He's not here in front of my face.
He obviously met up with AD. Seems like it was respectful.
So at the end of the day, respect to Matt. I have nothing disrespectful to say.
[Vanessa] I love it. Thank you, guys.
Well, we always love a good love story.
And one of our couples who is returning
is Chelsea and Kwame.
-Hi, guys. -Hi.
Whoop-whoop!
You all had a very happy ending.
-Oh, yeah. -You called it a fairy tale.
How are y'all doing?
-We are doing great. -[laughs]
We are so proud and happy, almost two years of marriage,
which is crazy, but it feels like ten. [laughing]
-[woman 27] Whoo-wee! -[woman 28] Yay!
Back in the day, I remember Kwame talking about the sacrifices
he was having to make for your marriage
and how much he wanted a somewhat nomadic lifestyle.
And, Chelsea, I hear you have a big job shift
that's allowed maybe more of that to happen.
You care to share anything about that?
Absolutely. I have an amazing privilege and honor
to help cast for Love Is Blind.
-[cheering] -[Chelsea 1] Thank you.
[man 2] Whoo!
And it has been incredibly fulfilling for me and so special to be a part of it.
And I get to talk to brave, bold, courageous singles
all over the United States
that may make the leap that we all did.
And it has been important and meaningful work for me,
and it has opened up a lifestyle that has allowed us to travel
and have more of kind of that free spirit in our day to day,
and it's been truly a blessing for us.
[Nick] So you get to travel more.
Where's the most exciting place you've traveled recently?
We've done a lot.
I mean, our honeymoon was to Italy…
-Um, Greece. -Greece, Türkiye.
Türkiye! Uh, incredible trip overall.
But I would say, despite those being kind of the amazing,
scenic, special trips,
I think the ones that mean the most are the ones we get to take,
uh, back East Coast.
Go to DC and go see my family. We spent a lot of time.
Um, Chelsea's bonded really closely with my nieces and my nephew.
We have Halloweens together where we dress up.
We were all superheroes together.
[Kwame] So I mean, we've done a lot of really cool things.
But I think, like, those are the most meaningful trips.
We're going to Hawaii tomorrow, so…
-[Vanessa] Wait. -Ooh!
-Nick, if you're home… -[Nick] Stay at the house!
-[laughing] -[Vanessa] Yeah!
-[Nick] We got you. -[Vanessa] I love it.
Thank you guys so much for sharing. See you in Hawaii.
-[Chelsea 1] See ya. -Do your shakas.
[laughing]
[cheering]
So right next to you, I'm watching Micah and Izzy kind of…
Something seems to be going on over there.
-Um, you guys have a little announcement. -[Micah] A little?
Should this be the time for them to share that with everybody?
Do you wanna share?
Izzy, do you wanna tell 'em?
[Izzy] I think you should tell them.
So Izzy and I are actually gonna be on the next season of Perfect Match.
-[laughing] -[cheering]
-[man 3] Hey! Hey! -[Micah] Very excited for it.
That's right. Micah and Izzy will actually be joining me
on the next season of Perfect Match, coming this summer along with…
-Jessica, who's joining us. -[all laughing]
[cheering]
[Nick] Guys, I had so much fun being a part of season one.
It's really exciting to have you be a part of season two.
So thank you very much.
Something that happens with the Love Is Blind community
is the friendships, the sisterhood,
the brotherhood, the relationships that build.
And Jessica, you and Micah have bonded.
Yeah, I feel like it's hard for people to imagine someone that looks like that
could have, like, a heart of true gold,
but I've never in my life met someone who is so kind,
such an amazing mother
and one of the biggest rocks I've ever had in my entire life.
And she's gonna make someone very happy some day.
-[laughs] -[Nick] I second that.
[Micah] Whoever that guy is, he's gonna be very lucky.
-Aww. -Aww. Thank you, friend. Thank you.
So, Izzy, what's been going on with you since the last time we saw you?
Catch us up.
[sighs] Not much, man, just enjoying life, been traveling.
And I think the best part of it all is the credit's fixed, you know?
-[laughing] -[Izzy] We're here, baby! We're here!
-[man 4] Oh, man. -[woman 29] Yay!
-[woman 30] Izzy! -[Izzy shouts indistinctly]
[cheering]
-[Izzy] Come on! -[laughing]
[Nick] Dinner's on Izzy tonight!
I can't complain, man. Life's been great.
[Vanessa] I love it. Well, we wanna end this on a happy note
and kind of ask you guys what was your favorite part through this process.
What do you miss most about being on Love Is Blind?
I mean, you're the OGs now, the Original Gangstas.
[splutters] Mish La… Mish La… Miss Lachey…
[laughing]
-[Izzy] Take the wine away! -[Brennon] Like you said, it's therapy.
That "Love Is Wine" is too good!
[laughing]
[Brennon] Y'all are great!
And watching the show back, it's like therapy, we love it.
[Vanessa] Did you say you'd miss--
No, it's like therapy… Watching the show is like therapy.
We talk, and we pause it, and we talk.
And kind of just dive into everything.
And thank y'all for sharing y'all stories.
I miss production. Production was always so great.
[Vanessa] What are y'all gonna miss about this whole ride?
Ms. Lachey, the food.
-I miss the food. -[Vanessa] The food?
Well, on that note…
Clay?
Did I see a video of you microwaving Gatorade?
-[laughing] -Yeah, what was that?
[woman 31] What?
-Honestly, uh… [clears throat] -[laughing]
I would just tell America that I would never put liquid
in a plastic in a microwave.
These mugs really good, man.
Noodles and red sauce.
[beeps]
[Vanessa] It may have been an optical illusion, a reflection.
-I think so too. -[Vanessa] You do not microwave Gatorade.
[Nick] You cannot believe everything you read out there.
I mean, guys, I, for one, am starving. Do you guys wanna dive in?
Let's do it!
Thank you to the Love Is Blind family for returning today.
Thank you to our season six friends
for opening your hearts and sharing your journeys with us.
We cannot wait to see you all back here on our couches at a future reunion.
Just like our OGs. Thank you to our OGs.
Yep, and thank you all very much. Here's to love!
-The search, the journey… -[Vanessa] And happy endings!
-[Nick] We'll see you next time! -[cheering]
-[pop music playing] -♪ Live my life… ♪
-[shouts] -[Clay] Ready?
-I'm not above you. -[all] I'm not above you.
-I'm not below you. -[all] I'm not below you.
-I'm right here with you. -[all] I'm right here with you.
[cheering]
-♪ Live my life ♪ -[vocalizing]
♪ Live my life ♪
[vocalizing]
♪ Live my life ♪